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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706456 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5700 on: May 01, 2015, 07:18:14 AM »
Me and my wife got shut down 2 weeks ago and after some HUCA got my cards reopened, but I haven't been able to get my wife's reopened, I don't want to push to hard either so they shouldn't review my account also.
You both got shut down for the same reason ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5701 on: May 01, 2015, 12:00:39 PM »
is chase site down?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5702 on: May 01, 2015, 12:03:17 PM »
is chase site down?

I was having problems earlier today too. Was super slow.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5703 on: May 01, 2015, 12:08:58 PM »
is chase site down?
Must be the weekend already.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5704 on: May 02, 2015, 06:41:38 PM »
Many people have had success of being reaccepted by asking the lending department to have their app looked over by an off phond verification department. They transfer your application to that department, and they have the power to reaccept you. Not every agent even knows about this, so just HUCA.

Anyone have any more info to share about this.  Was A/A'd 16 months ago too and when reapping got denied too  >:(

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5705 on: May 06, 2015, 08:40:59 AM »
Not sure how they decide if/when/who can get approved again.

Wife and I both got instant approval 12 month after A/A. B"H cards stayed open and bonuses posted.

I just did another 2 BM 3 months later and both were denied due to previous unsatisfactory relationship.
......at the same time as having two active open cards. 

Go figure.

(Now my dilemma is whether to recon. If denial was for any other reason, I definitely would, but don't want to get existing cards shut down too by drawing too much attention - although I don't really need the open cards anymore and would really like the new sign up bonuses, so still debating...)


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5706 on: May 06, 2015, 08:43:29 AM »
Not sure how they decide if/when/who can get approved again.

Wife and I both got instant approval 12 month after A/A. B"H cards stayed open and bonuses posted.

I just did another 2 BM 3 months later and both were denied due to previous unsatisfactory relationship.
......at the same time as having two active open cards. 

Go figure.

(Now my dilemma is whether to recon. If denial was for any other reason, I definitely would, but don't want to get existing cards shut down too by drawing too much attention - although I don't really need the open cards anymore and would really like the new sign up bonuses, so still debating...)

If you don't need the open cards why not? unless you think that you can try another 2BM later and get approved.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5707 on: May 09, 2015, 11:41:46 PM »
So I was shut down last August as I increased my spending on CC too Rapidly
applied last week for the UA card, instantly denied, called recon was told that I had a a recent bad experience with bank. when I asked what I can do, was told I have to write to credit analyst dept as they don't have access to my info. HUCA'ed till I found a rep that would email my application to an offline review dep, ant just checked
I was approved for 7k
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5708 on: May 09, 2015, 11:53:09 PM »
So I was shot down last August as I increased my spending on CC too Rapidly
applied last week for the UA card, instantly denied, called recon was told that I had a a recent bad experience with bank. when I asked what I can do, was told I have to write to credit analyst dept as they dont have access to my info. HUCA'ed till I found a rep that would email my application to an offline review dep, ant just checked
I was approved for 7k
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Thanks for the data point.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5709 on: May 10, 2015, 09:02:24 AM »

If you don't need the open cards why not? unless you think that you can try another 2BM later and get approved.

When denial letters came they didn't show FICO so I called recon and they said CR has not been pulled so I'm gonna leave it for now.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5710 on: May 10, 2015, 09:27:29 AM »
I got a denial letter without a fico and credit was pulled

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5711 on: May 10, 2015, 10:27:17 AM »
👍
Thanks for the data point.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5712 on: May 12, 2015, 02:42:20 AM »
Got this email regarding my checking account. Does it mean anything?

This is an Alert to help manage your account ending in xxxx.On 05/11/2015 , we placed a $35.00 hold on your account. Your funds will be available on 05/14/2015. Deposits are subject to further review.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5713 on: May 12, 2015, 10:24:04 AM »
My credit line with chase is about 50% of my income ( legitimate income). Is it a good idea to lower it, to avoid A/A ? How much will it affect my credit score ( I just applied for 2 new chase cards, if that makes a diff. ) ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5714 on: May 12, 2015, 10:25:41 AM »
My credit line with chase is about 50% of my income ( legitimate income). Is it a good idea to lower it, to avoid A/A ? How much will it affect my credit score ( I just applied for 2 new chase cards, if that makes a diff. ) ?
If you're not doing anything you're not supposed to that shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5715 on: May 12, 2015, 11:27:10 AM »

If you're not doing anything you're not supposed to that shouldn't be an issue.
msing ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5717 on: May 12, 2015, 11:37:58 AM »
msing ?
You're not supposed to do MS?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5718 on: May 12, 2015, 11:42:04 AM »
You're not supposed to do MS?
You are supposed to, but the banks don't like it

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5719 on: May 12, 2015, 11:43:42 AM »
You are supposed to, but the banks don't like it
Soooo, if I'm medayak...
that shouldn't be an issue.