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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1686744 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5880 on: March 18, 2016, 09:08:36 AM »
I have done it numerous times with no issues.
k tx were there checking accounts chase or a different bank?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5881 on: March 18, 2016, 09:15:47 AM »
k tx were there checking accounts chase or a different bank?
Different bank. Bofa to be exact.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5882 on: March 18, 2016, 01:43:19 PM »
Different bank. Bofa to be exact.
tx! Anyone else?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5883 on: March 19, 2016, 10:38:14 PM »
so I have 2 friends of my who got a later from chase that they account will be closed for transferring  points unless they send over proof that they are partner in the business

what is the best way to deal with that ?

one of them have about 800k points in the account and he cant do anything now with it ?

he asked me if its a good idea to say that he has no idea who did the transfer and it all fraud will that help or hurt him ?
What triggered the letter ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5884 on: March 19, 2016, 11:59:18 PM »
It said that they will close or they may close?
I have a friend that said MAY close. How should he react to that? Do u think they will close him?  Should he not take the chance of the bank shutting him down?  does it ruin your credit report If the bank closes you? (it's a biz card.)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5885 on: March 20, 2016, 01:43:09 PM »
I have a friend that said MAY close. How should he react to that? Do u think they will close him?  Should he not take the chance of the bank shutting him down?  does it ruin your credit report If the bank closes you? (it's a biz card.)
anyone?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5886 on: March 20, 2016, 01:44:01 PM »
anyone?
If they close his accounts, it won't ruin his credit.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5888 on: March 20, 2016, 04:22:23 PM »
If they close his accounts, it won't ruin his credit.
thanks greatly appreciated

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5889 on: April 10, 2016, 01:22:07 AM »
Is paying your chase bill with your friends chase checking a trigger?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5890 on: April 11, 2016, 02:46:09 PM »
Do people think it is safe to move UR to family account for the person whose accounts were shutdown? Or will that subject the family member to a shutdown?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5891 on: April 11, 2016, 03:58:18 PM »
tx! Anyone else?

I almost always pay Chase CC from accounts of other owners.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5892 on: April 11, 2016, 04:24:01 PM »
Do people think it is safe to move UR to family account for the person whose accounts were shutdown? Or will that subject the family member to a shutdown?

I did it without repercussion,  but I'm just one case.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5893 on: June 01, 2016, 07:16:10 PM »
just reapplied for a new card after being shut down two years ago, auto decline :'(

Huca is a no go. any ideas?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5894 on: June 01, 2016, 07:57:21 PM »
I see the question of paying ur cc with other persons bank acct being asked here if anybody has what to add to the discussion it'd be greatly appreciated if the conversation can be moved here
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=62661.0

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5895 on: June 01, 2016, 08:59:24 PM »
just reapplied for a new card after being shut down two years ago, auto decline :'(

Huca is a no go. any ideas?
Play dumb, worked for MW here:

UPDATE:
Wife who was shut down as well when we were A/Aed almost a year ago, was just approved for BA!
She called in not 'knowing' what the "Previous unsatisfactory relationship with the bank" was, after a ten minute hold, and some brief questions and confirmation that she has NO IDEA why she was shut down in the first place , she was approved for $11k!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5896 on: June 01, 2016, 09:02:00 PM »
Play dumb, worked for MW here:
Who did she call, chase rep couldn't help me

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5897 on: June 01, 2016, 09:14:02 PM »
Who did she call, chase rep couldn't help me
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5898 on: June 01, 2016, 11:48:49 PM »
When people say that you shouldn't have your cc paid by another person (from their bank account), is that even the case for spouses? Meaning, can I pay off my wife's cc using a checking account that only has my name on it? Or could that be a red flag?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5899 on: June 01, 2016, 11:55:41 PM »
When people say that you shouldn't have your cc paid by another person (from their bank account), is that even the case for spouses? Meaning, can I pay off my wife's cc using a checking account that only has my name on it? Or could that be a red flag?
Shouldn't be a problem.