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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706665 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6440 on: January 21, 2018, 02:13:45 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6441 on: January 21, 2018, 02:16:13 PM »
I just started reading the WIKI and I got fooled i thought the thread was started by an idiot, then turned legit
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6442 on: January 21, 2018, 02:16:33 PM »
That's predictable.
Not at the time. It was peanuts like 10-20k.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6443 on: January 21, 2018, 02:20:14 PM »
Not at the time. It was peanuts like 10-20k.
I figured so, now 10-20k isn't peanuts for this, I had a friend who got and AA for 5k in MOs.(he got one account reopened through the CFPB, YES THE CFPB.)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6444 on: January 22, 2018, 07:25:53 PM »
I figured so, now 10-20k isn't peanuts for this, I had a friend who got and AA for 5k in MOs.(he got one account reopened through the CFPB, YES THE CFPB.)
wow, anyone else try CPFB with chase and have success?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6445 on: January 22, 2018, 07:28:45 PM »
wow, anyone else try CPFB with chase and have success?
I think people have had more success dealing directly with Chase to get them reopened, but always worth a shot if with Chase doesn't work.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6446 on: January 22, 2018, 07:32:15 PM »
I think people have had more success dealing directly with Chase to get them reopened, but always worth a shot if with Chase doesn't work.
sounds like chase doesnt budge on most... Is that not true?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6447 on: January 22, 2018, 07:34:57 PM »
sounds like chase doesnt budge on most... Is that not true?
I know people who have been successful by asking them to reinvestigate, if it wasn't something to legit that can work, and of course moving up from the front line reps can help too.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6448 on: January 22, 2018, 07:37:50 PM »
I know people who have been successful by asking them to reinvestigate, if it wasn't something to legit that can work, and of course moving up from the front line reps can help too.
can you explain a bit more? front line reps - isnt there one dept tht deals with this? something to leigt - reason for shutdown you mean?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6449 on: January 22, 2018, 07:39:07 PM »
can you explain a bit more? front line reps - isnt there one dept tht deals with this?
I mean supervisors....
something to legit - reason for shutdown you mean?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6450 on: January 22, 2018, 08:07:15 PM »
Tx...first I apply and then wich department do I reach out to?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6451 on: January 23, 2018, 01:17:41 PM »
Chase on rampage lately?
Closed my wife's account - only thing possible that payment was made from bank acct that pays a few different credit cards
Closed my bosses acct - no clue

Both have long relationships, no churning or selling.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6452 on: January 23, 2018, 01:20:08 PM »
Chase on rampage lately?
Closed my wife's account - only thing possible that payment was made from bank acct that pays a few different credit cards
Closed my bosses acct - no clue

Both have long relationships, no churning or selling.
same for my friend, just had a 3rd party account added, that seems to have been the trigger. Was your account that was linked to that 3rd party account a personal or biz credit card?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6454 on: January 23, 2018, 01:27:15 PM »
only thing possible that payment was made from bank acct that pays a few different credit cards
Her cards ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6455 on: January 23, 2018, 01:43:44 PM »
Her cards ?
No. A guy that sells on Amazon uses her card and other peoples as well.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6456 on: January 23, 2018, 01:44:51 PM »
No. A guy that sells on Amazon uses her card and other peoples as well.
So excessive spending was the killer?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6457 on: January 23, 2018, 01:49:13 PM »
No. A guy that sells on Amazon uses her card and other peoples as well.
The guy uses her cards which she then pays ? Was it a chase card ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6458 on: January 23, 2018, 01:53:58 PM »
One thing everyone should learn from this thread. When someone says they don't know why they were shutdown 99/100 there is more to the story.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6459 on: January 23, 2018, 01:55:58 PM »
The guy uses her cards which she then pays ? Was it a chase card ?
Why dont you understand? some guy that sells on Amazon uses her cards and some other peoples cards and pays off all the cards from his account.