Topic Wiki

Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700582 times)

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6640 on: March 22, 2018, 06:40:29 PM »
Was just approved for Hyatt card. What's the chance it is not closed before I receive it? What other cards are not 5/24?
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7250
  • Total likes: 979
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6641 on: March 22, 2018, 06:45:58 PM »
Was just approved for Hyatt card. What's the chance it is not closed before I receive it? What other cards are not 5/24?
Round 4. Ding ding ding ding ding.
Congrats. Hope it lasts. Other cards that aren't under 5/24 are.
Amazon.
AARP.
BA.
Disney.
The new IB
IHG.
Marriott Business.
Ritz.
What was your initial CL? Will you try to play it safe? Or screw it and go hard assuming you'll get another AA?
« Last Edit: March 22, 2018, 06:53:32 PM by davidrotts63 »
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6642 on: March 22, 2018, 06:50:59 PM »
What was your initial CL? Will you try to play it safe? Or screw it and go hard assuming you'll get another AA?
20.9k and will try one more.
Marriott Business?
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7250
  • Total likes: 979
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6643 on: March 22, 2018, 06:53:09 PM »


20.9k and will try one more.
Marriott Business?

Nice.
Good call on the Marriott biz, or maybe an Avios card?
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6644 on: March 22, 2018, 06:55:41 PM »

Nice.
Good call on the Marriott biz, or maybe an Avios card?
Was thinking Avios but only time I see award availability is last minute. It did work out for MBJ last minute flight.
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7250
  • Total likes: 979
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6645 on: March 22, 2018, 06:57:50 PM »
Was thinking Avios but only time I see award availability is last minute. It did work out for MBJ last minute flight.
Of course it's according to your preference.
Just want to point out.
A. A biz and personal may be 2 pulls.
B. The Avios may take longer to reach the spending requirement as its a larger amount, so if you are predicting an AA, you may want to do one that needs less spend.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2018, 07:01:18 PM by davidrotts63 »
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6646 on: March 22, 2018, 06:59:12 PM »
B. The Avios may take longer to reach the spending requirement as its a larger amount, so if you are predicting an AA, you may want to do one hat needs less time to spend.
You trying to be funny? Spend will be done day one.
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7250
  • Total likes: 979
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6647 on: March 22, 2018, 07:00:22 PM »
You trying to be funny? Spend will be done day one.
I didn't think you'd want to poke at Chase again.
(you are secretly doing USPS??)
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline PBaruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 2270
  • Total likes: 296
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: HutzNPlutz
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6648 on: March 22, 2018, 07:00:28 PM »
You trying to be funny? Spend will be done day one.

  ;D
What do you do after your dreams come true?

Offline lunatic

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 4459
  • Total likes: 29
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 8
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6649 on: March 22, 2018, 07:05:01 PM »
You trying to be funny? Spend will be done day one.

Seriously... it takes you a full day for that spend, why so long?

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6650 on: March 22, 2018, 07:06:12 PM »
  ;D
What's up? Long time no see.

What is the current bonus for Marriott Business, 75k?
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6651 on: March 22, 2018, 07:06:51 PM »
Seriously... it takes you a full day for that spend, why so long?
I sleep late.  :P
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline as2

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Mar 2013
  • Posts: 5724
  • Total likes: 917
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6652 on: March 22, 2018, 07:09:11 PM »
What's up? Long time no see.

What is the current bonus for Marriott Business, 75k?
75k no af first year
Memories last forever, make them while you can.

Offline lunatic

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 4459
  • Total likes: 29
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 8
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6653 on: March 22, 2018, 07:10:30 PM »
 
What's up? Long time no see.

What is the current bonus for Marriott Business, 75k?

He comes out of the woodwork when there is popcorn to be had. And its not even friday ;D

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6654 on: March 22, 2018, 07:42:24 PM »
20.9k and will try one more.
Marriott Business?
We need to review your request a little longer. We will let you know of our decision by U.S. mail. This could take up to 30 days.

Thank you for choosing Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Business Credit Card.
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7250
  • Total likes: 979
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6655 on: March 22, 2018, 07:42:54 PM »
We need to review your request a little longer. We will let you know of our decision by U.S. mail. This could take up to 30 days.

Thank you for choosing Marriott Rewards Premier Business Credit Card.
Call AS....
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline S123

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jul 2017
  • Posts: 207
  • Total likes: 6
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6656 on: March 22, 2018, 07:45:05 PM »
Chase business cards usually take few days. Very rarely auto approved

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6657 on: March 22, 2018, 07:54:05 PM »
Chase business cards usually take few days. Very rarely auto approved
That's for a mere mortal.  ;)
Will give it a few days. That should give them enough time to shut both cards down.  :)
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6658 on: March 22, 2018, 08:03:18 PM »
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7250
  • Total likes: 979
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6659 on: March 22, 2018, 08:04:52 PM »
AS?
Automated system, any Chase card phone number that doesn't got straight to a rep works, or the official number is (888) 338-2586
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch