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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #300 on: February 22, 2012, 04:57:27 PM »
Right! Is B* a nasty word?

My guess is that they use the B* form in order to make their threads less searchable to the CBs.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #301 on: February 22, 2012, 05:11:07 PM »
I remember first reading about this a few years ago.
Here is the study I had read.
http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/2583/2246

Never took advantage though, and I would imagine that loopholes have been closed since then

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #302 on: February 22, 2012, 05:17:31 PM »
I remember first reading about this a few years ago.
Here is the study I had read.
http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/2583/2246

Never took advantage though, and I would imagine that loopholes have been closed since then
I know that article all to well.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #303 on: February 22, 2012, 05:19:50 PM »
I know that article all to well.

I assume that much of it was known to ppl 'in the know' when it was written, and this just spread it to a larger audience?
Any actions that cc companies took to address deficiencies as a result of the article?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #304 on: February 22, 2012, 05:27:39 PM »
I assume that much of it was known to ppl 'in the know' when it was written, and this just spread it to a larger audience?
Any actions that cc companies took to address deficiencies as a result of the article?
It is hard to say but any undue attention always results in deals ending early.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #305 on: February 22, 2012, 07:18:55 PM »
I've read it flat out doesn't work anymore. Have you heard differently?

For EX and EQ, pretty much.

EQ is becoming a real pain but TU is still pretty straight forward.

TU isn't as important as the Es for NY/NJ residents.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #306 on: February 26, 2012, 02:19:17 PM »
I posted this question elsewhere but wasn't getting the response for the right question.
For anyone out there that Chase has closed down ALL their accounts, were you able to still transfer out your points?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #307 on: February 26, 2012, 04:35:44 PM »
I posted this question elsewhere but wasn't getting the response for the right question.
For anyone out there that Chase has closed down ALL their accounts, were you able to still transfer out your points?

No, at best you can convince them to send you a check for the points at 1cpp.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #308 on: February 26, 2012, 08:57:06 PM »
No, at best you can convince them to send you a check for the points at 1cpp.
you were closed?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #309 on: February 27, 2012, 12:17:33 AM »
I posted this question elsewhere but wasn't getting the response for the right question.
For anyone out there that Chase has closed down ALL their accounts, were you able to still transfer out your points?
If by "all accounts" you mean all CC accounts, then yes, the took away the points as well. This happened with a family member of mine. He did not have any other checking or savings accounts with them.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #310 on: February 27, 2012, 12:37:16 AM »
you were closed?

Ch"v! It's been reported here by other members.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #311 on: February 27, 2012, 09:25:21 AM »
If by "all accounts" you mean all CC accounts, then yes, the took away the points as well. This happened with a family member of mine. He did not have any other checking or savings accounts with them.

Thanks.

Anyone else out there have a different experience?
Would having an account with them help?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #312 on: February 27, 2012, 09:47:49 AM »
Thanks.

Anyone else out there have a different experience?
Would having an account with them help?

As I answered you yesterday, the points are lost. It does not matter if you have an account with them.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #313 on: February 27, 2012, 11:57:01 AM »
There are multiple people who have been reinstated after making a fuss for being shut down, that's the only chance of saving your points.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #314 on: February 27, 2012, 12:01:22 PM »
There are multiple people who have been reinstated after making a fuss for being shut down, that's the only chance of saving your points.
Chase seems to be shifting their policy especially after all the heat they are getting from the AARP closures.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #315 on: February 27, 2012, 02:34:44 PM »
Chase seems to be shifting their policy especially after all the heat they are getting from the AARP closures.

Hopefully your right about this, here is some possible aneccdotal evidence.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #316 on: February 27, 2012, 02:40:59 PM »
Hopefully your right about this, here is some possible aneccdotal evidence.
FWF has many data points on this happening.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #318 on: March 07, 2012, 12:04:33 PM »
new report on FT http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credit-card-programs/1321532-chase-suddenly-closed-all-my-credit-cards-due-too-many-inquiries.html
Interesting that we've had a member here who this happened to after switching his mortgage away from Chase and that FT'er had that happen after closing his checking with direct deposit.
Any pattern?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #319 on: March 07, 2012, 01:43:25 PM »
Interesting that we've had a member here who this happened to after switching his mortgage away from Chase and that FT'er had that happen after closing his checking with direct deposit.
Any pattern?
The checking was closed 6 months ago. I don’t think that would have anything to do with it. When you see isolated cases here and there it really does not show a pattern. If Chase was to go after churning bonuses you will know it. I wonder if one of the cards was an AARP card. Feb 28/29 was a bloodbath for this card.
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