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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6920 on: June 24, 2018, 12:09:24 PM »
Understanding the banker's pay structure can when you wonders.
Come again?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6921 on: June 24, 2018, 12:10:47 PM »
Come again?
Fixed the typo if that was your question
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6922 on: June 24, 2018, 12:12:38 PM »
Has anyone recently got reopened?

Can ones CPC banker help at all?
A friend of mine had his CPC try and they reprimanded him with a letter. When we went they told our CPC that they will only talk to us.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6923 on: June 24, 2018, 12:16:37 PM »
A friend of mine had his CPC try and they reprimanded him with a letter. When we went they told our CPC that they will only talk to us.
You can get them both on the line, and give permission to have them talk to the banker.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6924 on: June 24, 2018, 12:20:41 PM »
Your best chance is write to the executive office.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6925 on: June 24, 2018, 12:20:46 PM »
do they actually have any sway is the question... (CPC banker)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6926 on: June 24, 2018, 12:23:12 PM »
do they actually have any sway is the question... (CPC banker)
IME no!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6927 on: June 24, 2018, 12:25:04 PM »
You can get them both on the line, and give permission to have them talk to the banker.
My guy looked kind of scared. Like I wrote previously my friends Banker get a reprimand in the form of a letter to stay out of the decision.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6928 on: June 24, 2018, 12:28:35 PM »
Your best chance is write to the executive office.
Do that last! Once you go there and are denied there is no other options. Best bet is try normally to have it submitted for a review.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6929 on: June 24, 2018, 12:30:59 PM »
Do that last! Once you go there and are denied there is no other options. Best bet is try normally to have it submitted for a review.
Why waste time. If that fails without them giving a specific reason then go to arbitration.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6930 on: June 24, 2018, 12:32:00 PM »
Why waste time. If that fails without them giving a specific reason then go to arbitration.
According to the pros "after reviewing your accounts qualifies as a reason, so that law has no merit for a customer "
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6931 on: June 24, 2018, 12:34:49 PM »
According to the pros "after reviewing your accounts qualifies as a reason, so that law has no merit for a customer "
What pros? So if they review your account and find nothing wrong they are still allowed to close your account?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6932 on: June 24, 2018, 12:35:40 PM »
What pros? So if they review your account and find nothing wrong they are still allowed to close your account?
Credit Boards pros.
Apparently yes.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6933 on: June 24, 2018, 12:38:18 PM »
Credit Boards pros.
Not in this area. Search DOC for two lawyers on this if you want real pros!!!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6934 on: June 24, 2018, 12:39:19 PM »
Not in this area. Search DOC for two lawyers on this if you want real pros!!!
Liiiiink?
What about a false reason?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6935 on: June 24, 2018, 12:40:38 PM »
Is it safe to pay business credit card with personal checking account. Name on checking account is same as business owner. I noticed when I tried adding the personal account as a pay from account on chase.com to pay the credit card, they wouldn't allow me to add it.
i got my all cc accounts shut for paying bill with a 3rd party check. is it safe to transfer my points to my wife account?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6936 on: June 24, 2018, 12:41:00 PM »
Credit Boards pros.
Apparently yes.
We should see how that plays out in court, I'm no lawyer but if the law in indeed that they must give you a reason, I can't imagine that "reviewing the account" in sufficient.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6937 on: June 24, 2018, 12:42:21 PM »
We should see how that plays out in court, I'm no lawyer but if the law in indeed that they must give you a reason, I can't imagine that "reviewing the account" in sufficient.
I thought the same, but I'm no one to argue with the pros on CB.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6938 on: June 24, 2018, 12:44:03 PM »
I thought the same, but I'm no one to argue with the pros on CB.
How can they be so sure if it was never in court?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6939 on: June 24, 2018, 12:44:27 PM »
I thought the same, but I'm no one to argue with the pros on CB.
You can argue with the Pros. Post their how to get inquires deleted and the Pros will explode!!!
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