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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6940 on: June 24, 2018, 12:46:31 PM »
You can argue with the Pros. Post their how to get inquires deleted and the Pros will explode!!!
I already did that one
They ended up discussing how my 5 minutes I spent on 3 INQ. is a waste of time.

My point was I can't argue with them based on my gut (that that reason isn't enough), if I KNOW otherwise there's no reason not to create a storm.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6943 on: June 24, 2018, 12:52:51 PM »
I already did that one
They ended up discussing how my 5 minutes I spent on 3 INQ. is a waste of time.
They didn't tell you how that is illegal and will result with your accounts be locked with fraud alerts?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6944 on: June 24, 2018, 12:53:59 PM »
Is this case in there?
What case? They have many articles on DOC. They are the Pros in this area with proven results!!!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6945 on: June 24, 2018, 12:54:07 PM »
They didn't tell you how that is illegal and will result with your accounts be locked with fraud alerts?
I deleted duplicates
They tried saying how I will have a fraud alert, but I said how I made it clear to the rep that I am not reporting fraud
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6946 on: June 24, 2018, 12:54:35 PM »
What case? They have many articles on DOC. They are the Pros in this area with proven results!!!
Nice! I've never seen this, I have to submit this question
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6947 on: June 24, 2018, 08:25:08 PM »
The issue is that the contract between oneself and the cc company is the most one sided contract ever.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6948 on: June 24, 2018, 08:26:51 PM »
The issue is that the contract between oneself and the cc company is the most one sided contract ever.
Not sure I agree with the massive abuse they have taken over the years.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6949 on: June 24, 2018, 08:30:20 PM »
Depends for who :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6950 on: June 24, 2018, 08:37:40 PM »
Not sure I agree with the massive abuse they have taken over the years.
not sure where that comes in. Regardless I did nothing against the rules, and definitely not my family members that got shut because of me.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6951 on: June 24, 2018, 08:40:41 PM »
not sure where that comes in. Regardless I did nothing against the rules, and definitely not my family members that got shut because of me.
Didn't mean you personally.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6952 on: June 24, 2018, 09:46:28 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6953 on: June 25, 2018, 08:31:34 AM »
gotchya
A little off the topic, What is the next best CC after Chase reserve.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6954 on: June 25, 2018, 11:34:08 AM »
A little off the topic, What is the next best CC after Chase reserve.
very off topic, please delete.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6955 on: June 27, 2018, 12:27:46 PM »
how long does it take for a shutdown letter to arrive? From the date of shutdown...

Also,

Is there a way to know if one's bank accounts were closed without calling? (or no because they usually give 30 days)


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6956 on: June 27, 2018, 12:34:46 PM »
how long does it take for a shutdown letter to arrive? From the date of shutdown...

Also,

Is there a way to know if one's bank accounts were closed without calling? (or no because they usually give 30 days)


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3-5 business days. It should say online "this account is closed"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6957 on: June 27, 2018, 02:58:03 PM »
It should say online "this account is closed"
For checking/savings?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6958 on: June 27, 2018, 04:10:06 PM »
For checking/savings?
Ah, I'm talking about cc

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6959 on: June 27, 2018, 06:52:56 PM »
3-5 business days. It should say online "this account is closed"
gotchya
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