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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699309 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #480 on: March 29, 2012, 01:51:31 PM »
There are hundreds of us that have churned more than you have and haven't been shut down.  Until it becomes more widespread it's not something I'd worry about it too much.
+1, too hasty a decision

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #481 on: March 29, 2012, 01:59:04 PM »
@Fly On The Ocean: I don't get the logic of your considering to shut down the accounts right away.
I meant as opposed to having 5 cards open that are basically not being used/gathering dust

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #482 on: March 29, 2012, 02:09:32 PM »
There are hundreds of us that have churned more than you have and haven't been shut down.  Until it becomes more widespread it's not something I'd worry about it too much.
Thanks dan, that certainly calms my nerves.
The other day when the chase website was down, all my accounts showed as N/A and i freaked out bc i thought I was A/A'd.
So I appreciate your input

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #483 on: March 29, 2012, 02:11:03 PM »
Thanks dan, that certainly calms my nerves.
The other day when the chase website was down, all my accounts showed as N/A and i freaked out bc i thought I was A/A'd.
So I appreciate your input

Haha, that happened to me once too on a Saturday night (apparently they were just updating things). Scary moment.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #484 on: March 29, 2012, 02:15:23 PM »

The other day when the chase website was down, all my accounts showed as N/A and i freaked out bc i thought I was A/A'd.

Happened to me as well 2 weeks ago, and I have an AARP card. Was certain I was a goner.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #485 on: March 29, 2012, 02:26:00 PM »
Happened to me as well 2 weeks ago, and I have an AARP card. Was certain I was a goner.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #486 on: March 29, 2012, 02:31:29 PM »
Thanks dan, that certainly calms my nerves.
The other day when the chase website was down, all my accounts showed as N/A and i freaked out bc i thought I was A/A'd.
So I appreciate your input

Wow, it looks like I wasn't the only one!  I saw that on Sunday or Monday night.  I had committed to making a donation and I figured that night would be a perfect time to try the donation with one of my Chase cards :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #487 on: March 29, 2012, 05:58:35 PM »
I have another denial that I'm debating if i should call reconsideration about, but i think since I just opened 2 cards (via a 3BM) i'm gonna let it go. Is that wise? or just plain stupid
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #488 on: March 29, 2012, 06:05:59 PM »
I have another denial that I'm debating if i should call reconsideration about, but i think since I just opened 2 cards (via a 3BM) i'm gonna let it go. Is that wise? or just plain stupid
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #489 on: March 29, 2012, 06:15:35 PM »
It doesn't hurt to try
Meaning I shouldn't worry about the fact that 3 brand new accounts will be a potential trigger?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #490 on: March 29, 2012, 06:24:19 PM »
Mr. Ocean: get immediate help for OCD syndrome. Don't worry, its just a 0.01% of a minority who get A/Ad.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #491 on: March 29, 2012, 06:29:17 PM »
Mr. Ocean: get immediate help for OCD syndrome. Don't worry, its just a 0.01% of a minority who get A/Ad.
LOL I should take advice from a "meshugener"?

Yes i know i sound OCD but I really cannot bare the thought of being banned from Chase. Dan once said (i think) "pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered"
So i guess i'm asking: Am i being a "hog" by pushing for 3 cards?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #492 on: March 29, 2012, 06:35:50 PM »
No, you still stay a fat pig.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #493 on: March 29, 2012, 10:10:41 PM »
@Fly On The Ocean: I don't get the logic of your considering to shut down the accounts right away.
i thought he meant close it before they do, you might be better off

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #494 on: April 02, 2012, 07:11:18 PM »
BREAKING NEWS:
I had 3 cards (BA,OP,PC)and one business card (IB)
I just logged in and it says all my cc's are closed. I had just done a 2BM for freedom and SP.
Any advice would be great! Thank you.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #495 on: April 02, 2012, 07:14:20 PM »
 :'(

Try appealing to Chase: 888-622-7547 (Chase Executive Office).
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #496 on: April 02, 2012, 08:18:47 PM »
BREAKING NEWS:
I had 3 cards (BA,OP,PC)and one business card (IB)
I just logged in and it says all my cc's are closed. I had just done a 2BM for freedom and SP.
Any advice would be great! Thank you.
:-( Did you do any churning? Is there anything you can think of...Is your credit line close to your income?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #497 on: April 02, 2012, 08:36:43 PM »
Mr. Joeb1: I have only 1 Q: did you ever churned a Chase card? Is there any story of someone being AAed by Chase without any churning history?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #498 on: April 02, 2012, 09:39:02 PM »
I NEVER CHURNED A CARD.
The closest to a churn would be I had the saphire regular in 2010 and I just applied for the SP.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #499 on: April 02, 2012, 09:39:34 PM »
My credit line is not even crazy high with chase.