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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699308 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #700 on: April 17, 2012, 04:11:43 PM »
There could be a very simple answer. They don’t what unprofitable customers they feel are gaming the system. It sure looks that way with the AARP AA.

I agree. And issuers have always done soft reviews to see how many apps you've recently put in and new tradelines have been aquired in x months among other things.  Sometimes I even wonder if they look at your card profile and compare how many cards you've paid annual fees on and how many you've closed voluntarily before a fee was due. Ideally, it would be best to always transfer lines instead of a voluntary close.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #701 on: April 17, 2012, 04:15:11 PM »
@Dan: what do you have to say about all this??
I think I'm going to enjoy my last day of sunshine in LA and not worry about things I have no control over.
And I'm thinking I need to decide between UA and HGP...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #702 on: April 17, 2012, 04:17:21 PM »
And I'm thinking I need to decide between UA and HGP...
ROFLMAO!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #703 on: April 17, 2012, 04:21:21 PM »
I opened 3 Chase Cards in 3 month. The last card the freedom I had to call CS and I got it approved. With out much difficulty.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #705 on: April 17, 2012, 04:22:13 PM »
Whats HGB? Sorry

HGP

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #706 on: April 17, 2012, 04:26:37 PM »
There could be a very simple answer. They don’t what unprofitable customers they feel are gaming the system. It sure looks that way with the AARP AA.
+1
A mole doesn't know any individuals here. The best s/o could do is to read about 3bm's, etc. I haven't seen too many secrets shown here.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #707 on: April 17, 2012, 04:42:54 PM »
HGP

Hyatt Gold Passport. You should really start searching.
Please just answer the question like a mentch (or dont answer at all if you wish) FYI I searched the acronyms thread and didn't see it there. Also when i searched "HGP" I didn't see an explanation of the acronym right away
I think I'm going to enjoy my last day of sunshine in LA and not worry about things I have no control over.
And I'm thinking I need to decide between UA and HGP...
Enjoy LA!!!! (OT: did you end up staying in the SLS or the Hyatt Andaz? can you make a trip report post about it?)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #708 on: April 17, 2012, 04:49:26 PM »
Please just answer the question like a mentch (or dont answer at all if you wish) FYI I searched the acronyms thread and didn't see it there. Also when i searched "HGP" I didn't see an explanation of the acronym right away

Well, if that doesn't give you an excuse to be lazy, I don't know what will.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #709 on: April 17, 2012, 04:53:17 PM »
+1
A mole doesn't know any individuals here. The best s/o could do is to read about 3bm's, etc. I haven't seen too many secrets shown here.

Maybe not secrets per se, but plenty of what would be considered bad loopholes , easily exploited
And not benefiting the issuer. Measure 3 x cut once .

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #710 on: April 17, 2012, 05:09:31 PM »
Please just answer the question like a mentch (or dont answer at all if you wish) FYI I searched the acronyms thread and didn't see it there. Also when i searched "HGP" I didn't see an explanation of the acronym right awayEnjoy LA!!!! (OT: did you end up staying in the SLS or the Hyatt Andaz? can you make a trip report post about it?)
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #711 on: April 17, 2012, 06:47:12 PM »
Well, if that doesn't give you an excuse to be lazy, I don't know what will.
Not an excuse to be lazy at all. Just pointing out that chances are he already searched and was fruitless. (Why wouldn't he have searched? doesn't it take much less time to do a quick search than post and wait for replies?)

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0
SLS. IY"H.
Thanks for answering so politely and providing a link without scolding me to search! (I had found this link earlier on my own anyhow, (which is why I never asked what this acronym was) but thanks :)  )
Back on topic:
Are there other reports in the blogosphere of this recent chase shutdown blitz? (I didn't see anything but I am not familiar with many other websites/forums)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #712 on: April 17, 2012, 06:55:06 PM »
Are there other reports in the blogosphere of this recent chase shutdown blitz? (I didn't see anything but I am not familiar with many other websites/forums)
Not that I have seen. FT would be the one forum you might want to keep an eye on.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #713 on: April 17, 2012, 06:59:18 PM »
Right when I saw that my accounts got shut down I searched and came up empty.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #714 on: April 17, 2012, 08:29:01 PM »
Not an excuse to be lazy at all. Just pointing out that chances are he already searched and was fruitless. (Why wouldn't he have searched? doesn't it take much less time to do a quick search than post and wait for replies?)
Whats HGB?
What is AARP AA?

HGP is in an acronym thread (as well as other places).

AARP has its own master thread for heaven's sake.

Not looking good for the "chances he already searched."

Perhaps you haven't spent much time on DDF, but it gets pretty tedious pretty quickly when members have to answer questions that are readily answerable via a simple search. (No disrespect, aryeh1!)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #715 on: April 17, 2012, 08:39:03 PM »
Ok I will try to search better. But lets not get off topic over this...we have more important things to worry about right now.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #716 on: April 17, 2012, 08:39:36 PM »
Ok I will try to search better. But lets not get off topic over this...

Agreed :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #717 on: April 17, 2012, 08:40:39 PM »
Hey, AJK! You're becoming a semi-asherO. Sounds like you're his vice president here.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #718 on: April 17, 2012, 08:42:34 PM »
Yep hes definitely semi Asher0 especially with his number of posts which is half asher0

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« Reply #719 on: April 17, 2012, 08:45:42 PM »
Hey, AJK! You're becoming a semi-asherO. Sounds like you're his vice president here.

Yep. Recently been put on the vice-president payroll.

Yep hes definitely semi Asher0 especially with his number of posts which is half asher0

Who's Asher0? :P
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