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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #800 on: April 19, 2012, 05:15:20 PM »
No, But my bet is that whoever got there accts closed had more CL than income....
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #801 on: April 19, 2012, 07:44:01 PM »
I got a letter from Chase "Due to high CL and Low income we've decided to shut down your accounts" High Risk!
So there! all happy now? not making things up! 8)
because you got a letter like that doesn't mean thats the only reason.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #802 on: April 20, 2012, 01:44:23 AM »
I'm considering switching my wife's address, should I do it or will I be "waking up the dead"?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #803 on: April 20, 2012, 09:05:46 AM »
Going to get the Pic just stay tuned and don't go anywhere.....
where is it?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #804 on: April 20, 2012, 09:27:01 AM »
Going to get the Pic just stay tuned and don't go anywhere.....
It has been 18 hours and I have not moved. Is it OK if I go to the bathroom?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #805 on: April 20, 2012, 09:29:02 AM »
It has been 18 hours and I have not moved. Is it OK if I go to the bathroom?

Lol
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #806 on: April 20, 2012, 09:33:07 AM »
Lol
You might think it is funny but I have to go real bad.  :'(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #807 on: April 20, 2012, 09:37:43 AM »
And this has anything to do with Chase A/A? Create a thread "HelpMe badly needs to go to the bathroom" and post there your toilet trends.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #808 on: April 20, 2012, 12:48:04 PM »
And this has anything to do with Chase A/A? Create a thread "HelpMe badly needs to go to the bathroom" and post there your toilet trends.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #809 on: April 20, 2012, 12:54:48 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #810 on: April 20, 2012, 12:56:51 PM »
on a serious note can pls see that letter @mileschocker I'm very curious to see a reason for the current trend in shut downs

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #811 on: April 20, 2012, 02:32:18 PM »
It's interesting, I received a letter from Chase today (after reconsideration for the Sapphire) saying that Chase will approve the application after they:

"took into account the total amount of outstanding credit you already have with us.We determined that you have sufficient credit available with us in relation to your income" (I can upload the letter lol)

So just saying that Chase definitely take your income in relation into account. Of course this does not prove anything for MilesHocker...




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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #812 on: April 20, 2012, 02:48:34 PM »
Since when does Chase send letters after recon explaining the reason for approval?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #813 on: April 20, 2012, 02:54:30 PM »
Since when does Chase send letters after recon explaining the reason for approval?

After calling recon, I've always received a letter explaining their decision and actions taken.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #814 on: April 20, 2012, 05:10:28 PM »
I did a quick search and didn't find the answer... I know we still haven't figured out exact reason for Chase A/A... do excessive AMEX GCs have to do with it?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #815 on: April 20, 2012, 05:31:17 PM »
I did a quick search and didn't find the answer... I know we still haven't figured out exact reason for Chase A/A... do excessive AMEX GCs have to do with it?


They (I ) might view that as aiding the competition

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #816 on: April 20, 2012, 06:04:23 PM »
It's interesting, I received a letter from Chase today (after reconsideration for the Sapphire) saying that Chase will approve the application after they:

"took into account the total amount of outstanding credit you already have with us.We determined that you have sufficient credit available with us in relation to your income" (I can upload the letter lol)

So just saying that Chase definitely take your income in relation into account. Of course this does not prove anything for MilesHocker...
is that not part of the credit check a bank would do b4 giving a line of credit?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #817 on: April 20, 2012, 07:07:23 PM »
After calling recon, I've always received a letter explaining their decision and actions taken.
only for action of disapproval, not for action of approval.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #818 on: April 21, 2012, 02:52:37 AM »
only for action of disapproval, not for action of approval.

I have received both . But only once for approval and at least twice for initial denial due to too
many recent applications .

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #819 on: April 21, 2012, 11:42:49 AM »
only for action of disapproval, not for action of approval.

I disagree.  I've received letters after approvals as well.