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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700239 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #880 on: April 24, 2012, 04:04:05 PM »
I'm tired of this.
It was nice hosting you mileshocker.  Maybe drive another forum crazy instead?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #881 on: April 24, 2012, 04:17:02 PM »
I'm tired of this.

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This is still going on?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #882 on: April 24, 2012, 04:58:26 PM »
I uploaded the letter but i think Mclovin or Mordy44 took it down..not sure why?


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #883 on: April 25, 2012, 10:42:28 AM »
I stated a few pages earlier my accounts were closed bec. of "account not used as intended". Tried applying for a new card after and they said they cannot approve me because of that note on my account. Is there anyway to get back in good standing with chase and have them remove that note as well as have them change my credit report to reflect account closed by customer?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #884 on: April 25, 2012, 11:57:23 AM »
I stated a few pages earlier my accounts were closed bec. of "account not used as intended". Tried applying for a new card after and they said they cannot approve me because of that note on my account. Is there anyway to get back in good standing with chase and have them remove that note as well as have them change my credit report to reflect account closed by customer?

I wouldn't hold your breath. But I have read that people in a similar position (having been A/A'd) can get another chase card after a few years.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #885 on: April 25, 2012, 12:21:37 PM »
Is there anyway to get that notation taken off the account at this current time. Anyone have this similar experience?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #886 on: April 25, 2012, 12:38:13 PM »
Is there anyway to get that notation taken off the account at this current time. Anyone have this similar experience?
try to call higher up departments. Also when you did the transfer 2 months ago, did that person who you transferred to get shut down too?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #887 on: April 25, 2012, 12:45:51 PM »
I stated a few pages earlier my accounts were closed bec. of "account not used as intended". Tried applying for a new card after and they said they cannot approve me because of that note on my account. Is there anyway to get back in good standing with chase and have them remove that note as well as have them change my credit report to reflect account closed by customer?

What exactly were you doing just out of curiosity?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #888 on: April 25, 2012, 12:50:08 PM »
IDK, as chase doesnt give reasons

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #889 on: April 25, 2012, 12:50:29 PM »
Chase Executive Office for card services
888-622-7547 x 4350 (general)
888-622-7547 x 6833 (Jessica)

Chase Executive Office
800-242-7399
Heather Joyner, Executive Specialist
800.242.7399 ext. 51279
713-262-1279 Direct Line
FAX: 281-915-0984
heather.joyner@Chase.com

Gerald A. Smith
CEO Chase Credit Card Services
Phone: 302-282-3100
Fax: 302-282-3939
gordon.smith@Chase.com

Jamie Dimon
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
JP Morgan Chase
270 Park Avenue, 39th Floor
New York, NY 10017
Phone: 212-270-1111
Fax: 212-270-1121
jamie.dimon@jpmchase.com
also try executive.office@Chase.com

Charlie Scharf
CEO Chase Retail Financial Services
Phone: 212-270-5447
Fax: 212-270-5448
charlie.scharf@Chase.com

Deb Walden
VP of Customer Service
PO BOX 15919
Wilmington, DE 19850
Phone: 302 594-4000
Fax: 888 643-9628
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #890 on: April 25, 2012, 12:53:27 PM »
Chase Executive Office for card services
888-622-7547 x 4350 (general)
888-622-7547 x 6833 (Jessica -she rocked!)

Chase Executive Office
800-242-7399
Heather Joyner, Executive Specialist
800.242.7399 ext. 51279
713-262-1279 Direct Line
FAX: 281-915-0984
heather.joyner@Chase.com

Gerald A. Smith
CEO Chase Credit Card Services
Phone: 302-282-3100
Fax: 302-282-3939
gordon.smith@Chase.com

Jamie Dimon
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
JP Morgan Chase
270 Park Avenue, 39th Floor
New York, NY 10017
Phone: 212-270-1111
Fax: 212-270-1121
jamie.dimon@jpmchase.com
also try executive.office@Chase.com

Charlie Scharf
CEO Chase Retail Financial Services
Phone: 212-270-5447
Fax: 212-270-5448
charlie.scharf@Chase.com

Deb Walden
VP of Customer Service
PO BOX 15919
Wilmington, DE 19850
Phone: 302 594-4000
Fax: 888 643-9628
has anyone had any luck getting their account restarted using the aforementioned contact?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #891 on: April 25, 2012, 12:54:30 PM »
it was just posted seconds ago so time to start calling

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #892 on: April 25, 2012, 01:01:43 PM »
it was just posted seconds ago so time to start calling
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #893 on: April 25, 2012, 01:45:14 PM »
Has anyone gotten any reports of AU's or bank joint holders being shut down after the main account holder got A/A'd?
Or is it just people who's address is the same?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #894 on: April 25, 2012, 05:02:35 PM »
IDK, as chase doesnt give reasons
Which kind of point transfers have you made?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #895 on: April 25, 2012, 05:24:48 PM »
Is there anyway to get that notation taken off the account at this current time. Anyone have this similar experience?
Something you can try is dispute the account with the CRA as "not yours" and hope it gets deleted. This has worked with Citi in the past.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #896 on: April 25, 2012, 06:07:45 PM »
Something you can try is dispute the account with the CRA as "not yours" and hope it gets deleted. This has worked with Citi in the past.

Pretty sure the notation he is talking about is one in the bowels of Chase (regarding him as a customer), not one with the CRA.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #897 on: April 25, 2012, 06:17:03 PM »
Pretty sure the notation he is talking about is one in the bowels of Chase (regarding him as a customer), not one with the CRA.
I thought the same thing with Citi. Once the account was deleted CC accounts were approved again. Probably a long shot but I don't see a down side. Would be a great data point for others.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #898 on: April 25, 2012, 07:14:15 PM »
I thought the same thing with Citi. Once the account was deleted CC accounts were approved again. Probably a long shot but I don't see a down side. Would be a great data point for others.  :)

A great data point, indeed.

If that method works, their trigger would ostensibly be a "closed by issuer" on the CR. That'd be surprising.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #899 on: April 25, 2012, 07:19:54 PM »
Citi's long been incompetent, I doubt it will work with Chase though I'd be pleased to eat my words.
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