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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #920 on: April 26, 2012, 01:20:47 AM »
You should write a book, would be very entertaining. Perhaps a guide book to dansdeals?
He's taking pre-orders :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #921 on: April 26, 2012, 01:21:43 AM »
He's taking pre-orders :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #922 on: April 26, 2012, 01:23:28 AM »
He's taking pre-orders :)
maybe he can sell it from a grocery for freedom category 2.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #923 on: April 26, 2012, 01:23:58 AM »
Doubt that would work.
I'm talking about a substantial amount of money.
What would the chance of someone with a 35k credit balance getting shut down?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #924 on: April 26, 2012, 01:33:59 AM »
What would the chance of someone with a 35k credit balance getting shut down?
Would most certainly have some effect IMO.
Does that someone also store cash in his cc's?  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #925 on: April 26, 2012, 01:40:43 AM »
Would most certainly have some effect IMO.
Does that someone also store cash in his cc's?  ;)
Maybe Chase did not get the memo. ;D  Card (AARP) was shut down.
All cash is stored in mattress.  :P
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #926 on: April 26, 2012, 01:45:44 AM »
Maybe Chase did not get the memo. ;D  Card (AARP) was shut down.
All cash is stored in mattress.  :P
Was it a prepay? Or pay in full and return?
Just that card got shut down or A/A'd?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #927 on: April 26, 2012, 01:51:51 AM »
Was it a prepay? Or pay in full and return?
Just that card got shut down or A/A'd?
A couple of large transactions reversed. All personal and business cards shut down. To be fair this was most likely all AARP card related and the credit balance did not matter one way or the other.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #928 on: April 26, 2012, 01:56:34 AM »
A couple of large transactions reversed. All personal and business cards shut down. To be fair this was most likely all AARP card related and the credit balance did not matter one way or the other.
I see..
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #929 on: April 26, 2012, 06:37:03 AM »
it has been said that prepaying can be a red flag for some CC (as it allows for larger purchases).

I have prepaid because I was not sure if I would have net access when the  bill became due .
Avoiding late charges etc I have paid 2 x in one cycle .

No large amounts just convenient to get it done

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #930 on: April 26, 2012, 09:51:21 AM »
I have prepaid because I was not sure if I would have net access when the  bill became due .
Avoiding late charges etc I have paid 2 x in one cycle .

No large amounts just convenient to get it done
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #931 on: April 26, 2012, 10:33:01 AM »
No. Just disputing that as a cause by itself at least when no where near my CL and pay twice in a cycle FWIW

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #932 on: April 26, 2012, 01:26:06 PM »
Yes, I understand how one obtains a credit balance on a CC; I'm just not sure having Chase owe you few bucks on a CC (or three) would help appease the wrath of the henchmen.

How would that go?

"So Mr. Smith has 9 new accounts, a utilization percentage north of 70, and his credit limits exceed his stated annual income by 150%."

"Yes, sir."

"Then we A/A him!"

"No, we shouldn't."

"Why?"

"We owe him $14.51 on his Southwest card."

"Ohhh, you're right. Abort. Abort."

:)

If I had to guess, the reason having a credit balance might reduce the risk off a A/A, is not because any human could care less to send you a check for the balance, rather is affect the computer algorithms giving you a lower risk profile.

Just my .02

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #933 on: April 26, 2012, 02:05:43 PM »
Update:  My friend who had his account closed by Chase told me that the person who sent him a large sum of UR points also had his account shut down.

Coincidence? I think not.  :'(

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #934 on: April 26, 2012, 02:07:06 PM »
A lot of reports like this in the forumsphere.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #935 on: April 26, 2012, 02:15:09 PM »
Update:  My friend who had his account closed by Chase told me that the person who sent him a large sum of UR points also had his account shut down.

Coincidence? I think not.  :'(
About how many points did he transfer?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #936 on: April 26, 2012, 02:16:42 PM »
If I had to guess, the reason having a credit balance might reduce the risk off a A/A, is not because any human could care less to send you a check for the balance, rather is affect the computer algorithms giving you a lower risk profile.

Just my .02
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #938 on: April 26, 2012, 03:06:50 PM »
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/7_on_your_side&id=6962439

This one has a real letter :)
looks like a little media exposure worked wonders for her.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #939 on: April 26, 2012, 03:10:24 PM »
looks like a little media exposure worked wonders for her.
Absolutely, if you are closed contact your local media, consumerist, WSJ, AG, etc, etc.
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