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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700495 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1160 on: May 03, 2012, 05:12:18 PM »
The poll is skewed and doesn't reflect the reality anyhow.

Each user can only vote once. That doesn't reflect the 5 people I'm in touch with besides myself who also got A/A'd (and are not DDF members). We know that it's common practice for chase to shut down whole households when they feel the urge to take A/A. That's definitely not reflected in the above, so it's kinda misleading actually.
Huh? You may know 5 people who have been A/A'ed but you probably also know 200 who have not who are also not on DDF.  How does that skew the poll results?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1161 on: May 03, 2012, 06:04:17 PM »
Huh? You may know 5 people who have been A/A'ed but you probably also know 200 who have not who are also not on DDF.  How does that skew the poll results?
I see where you're coming from. I still feel like the poll is misrepresenting the stories being reported here in the thread, where the numbers of Chase AA's being reported are much higher. When someone looks up for a quick view of the A/A's reported here, they're not getting the true picture.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1162 on: May 03, 2012, 07:11:53 PM »
I tried logging in i get

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1163 on: May 03, 2012, 07:25:58 PM »
I tried logging in i get

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Thats a system error not you personally

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1164 on: May 03, 2012, 07:29:45 PM »
I tried logging in i get

Unable to Complete Transaction   
 
 
We were unable to process your request.   Unknown Error (11315)
I am getting the same error  :-\

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1165 on: May 03, 2012, 07:30:34 PM »
I tried logging in i get

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+1.... I really really hope it's not A/A

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1166 on: May 03, 2012, 07:35:16 PM »
+1.... I really really hope it's not A/A
So we all got A/A'd in the last few minutes  :o

Its been mentioned a few times that you see all your accounts when your A/A just they are closed

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1167 on: May 03, 2012, 07:45:24 PM »



From my cell it shows system error


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1168 on: May 03, 2012, 07:47:10 PM »
I believe there was a waning about system maintenance again this afternoon. I didn't pay attention to when it was going to be.

     I can't sign in either.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1169 on: May 03, 2012, 07:48:00 PM »
Site is down.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1170 on: May 03, 2012, 07:52:02 PM »
Stupid A/A has got me so worried.... I went through a very painful FR and I really don't want to get screwed again...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1171 on: May 03, 2012, 07:54:28 PM »
Why are they PM'ing all of you?
I am one of the people that PM not because we are hiding - Just because after reading many pages in this thread it seemed like most people were getting reinstated but no one was giving details exactly how. There are even some posts begging for details. Si I thought that maybe someone has an idea or phone number that  hashtikah yofeh lohem vihameivin yovin. I imagine that this is the same reason that others are PM. I have since come to learn that there is no easy solution other then to call and hope for the best.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1172 on: May 03, 2012, 07:57:16 PM »
The poll is too small to be meaningful.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1173 on: May 03, 2012, 08:00:41 PM »
I am one of the people that PM not because we are hiding - Just because after reading many pages in this thread it seemed like most people were getting reinstated but no one was giving details exactly how. There are even some posts begging for details. Si I thought that maybe someone has an idea or phone number that  hashtikah yofeh lohem vihameivin yovin. I imagine that this is the same reason that others are PM. I have since come to learn that there is no easy solution other then to call and hope for the best.
I can tell you that is not what is happening. The exact opposite is what is going on.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1174 on: May 03, 2012, 08:05:30 PM »
I can tell you that is not what is happening. The exact opposite is what is going on.
I now realize that this is true and almost no one is getting back on. Just in the first ten pages of this thread it seems that people were getting reinstated.
Another member in my family who transferred just 100k UR got shut down today. So far I am OK but would not be surprised if I am next.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1175 on: May 03, 2012, 08:06:22 PM »
I can tell you that is not what is happening. The exact opposite is what is going on.
+1
The reports of being reinstated are in the begining of the threas back a while ago, when they weren't so aggrasive, and those people were shut down for being a credit risk.
The recent roundup of shut downs, seem to be "card not used as intended reason", and so there is nothing to do about it.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1176 on: May 03, 2012, 08:07:34 PM »
The way Chase treats customers makes me appreciate AMEX even more.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1177 on: May 03, 2012, 08:09:07 PM »
The way Chase treats customers makes me appreciate AMEX even more.
Lets be honest an AMEX FR - just requires you to prove what you claim on your application is true. Chase does not give any information or any means of appeal.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1178 on: May 03, 2012, 08:12:37 PM »
I now realize that this is true and almost no one is getting back on. Just in the first ten pages of this thread it seems that people were getting reinstated.
Another member in my family who transferred just 100k UR got shut down today. So far I am OK but would not be surprised if I am next.
How long after the transfer?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1179 on: May 03, 2012, 08:18:33 PM »
Another member in my family who transferred just 100k UR got shut down today.

Transferred....out to another UR account?  Or to a travel partner?