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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699816 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1580 on: June 04, 2012, 10:36:31 PM »
I've got 2 UA Explorers and a UA Club.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1581 on: June 04, 2012, 10:39:47 PM »
I've got 2 UA Explorers and a UA Club.
lol. thanks...That makes me feel better :D

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1582 on: June 05, 2012, 12:35:44 AM »
lol. thanks...That makes me feel better :D

Hard to extrapolate from Dan to others...
He seems to have the golden touch :)

On a side note, has anyone seen any reports about account closures in the last week or 2, which is when Chase appears to have started to pay ppl their points? I'm wondering if they're starting to slow down the process.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1583 on: June 05, 2012, 08:41:32 AM »
Don't know if they totally stoped the A/A program, but seems to be they cooled down. The peak of the wave was around pesach.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1584 on: June 05, 2012, 12:04:00 PM »
I would like to know if Chase can see what exactly I purchased at OfficeDepot store?
I would like to buy few Amex giftcards using Ink Bold, but now I am scared after reading all these posts.
Do they see only the amount charged or they can see actually what items I purchased?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1585 on: June 07, 2012, 07:43:27 AM »
How long should I wait after being shut down before applying for a new card?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1586 on: June 07, 2012, 09:52:07 AM »
How long should I wait after being shut down before applying for a new card?
no real answer yet.
That said, don't plan to apply for any Chase cards for at least the rest of the year.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1587 on: June 08, 2012, 10:09:13 AM »
Besides losing your points when shut down... how bad is it for your credit when Chase closes down all your cards?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1588 on: June 08, 2012, 10:42:07 AM »
Besides losing your points when shut down... how bad is it for your credit when Chase closes down all your cards?
Not too bad. Unless the bulk of your credit lines were from chase and you now have a major drop in CL. But you want to avoid "closed by credit grantor" when possible.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1589 on: June 08, 2012, 11:08:47 AM »
But you want to avoid "closed by credit grantor" when possible.

When Chase closes your cards isn't that what it would say?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1590 on: June 08, 2012, 11:13:06 AM »
When Chase closes your cards isn't that what it would say?
Yes, they will. I'm just pointing that out as general advice.
Chase has closed me down long ago, and the negative affect of that wording on my CR was barely if anything.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1591 on: June 08, 2012, 11:15:38 AM »
Yes, they will. I'm just pointing that out as general advice.
Chase has closed me down long ago, and the negative affect of that wording on my CR was barely if anything.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1592 on: June 08, 2012, 05:27:16 PM »
Not too bad. Unless the bulk of your credit lines were from chase and you now have a major drop in CL. But you want to avoid "closed by credit grantor" when possible.

It should affect your score much, especially in the long run, but if you have to many "closed by issuer" type accounts on your report, anyone manually reviewing that might ask for an explanation.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1593 on: June 08, 2012, 06:51:29 PM »
It shouldn't affect your score much, especially in the long run, but if you have to many "closed by issuer" type accounts on your report, anyone manually reviewing that might ask for an explanation.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1594 on: June 08, 2012, 07:41:14 PM »
It should affect your score much, especially in the long run, but if you have to many "closed by issuer" type accounts on your report, anyone manually reviewing that might ask for an explanation.

BTW, Chase seems to purge all records of the accounts after 2 years or so. When I called them about my closed accounts at one point, they said they had no record of anything. So I went ahead and requested from the 3 CRA that all the closed accounts be deleted from my CR, and sure enough, they were all deleted.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1595 on: June 10, 2012, 08:53:03 PM »
This thread seems to have really cooled down, BH.
What was the day of the last A/A that we know about?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1596 on: June 10, 2012, 10:15:19 PM »
Agreed!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1597 on: June 10, 2012, 10:31:41 PM »
I wouldn't get my hopes up yet...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1598 on: June 10, 2012, 10:51:41 PM »
This thread seems to have really cooled down, BH.
What was the day of the last A/A that we know about?
Expect more when they get wind of the IB/OD deal.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1599 on: June 10, 2012, 10:57:32 PM »
@HelpMe you really need a private forum. Shut up. They're watching.
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