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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700564 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2020 on: December 02, 2012, 01:42:01 PM »
Read through the thread, and you'll find countless discussions about this.
In short, it's a machlokes.

safek l'chumra or lekulah?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2021 on: December 02, 2012, 01:45:25 PM »
safek l'chumra or lekulah?
I'd pick L'chumra

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2022 on: December 02, 2012, 01:53:59 PM »
I'd pick L'chumra

bummer....other than GC's what a good free way in israel to meet minimum spend w/o chase a/a risk?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2023 on: December 02, 2012, 01:54:41 PM »
I pick l'kulah re AP.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2024 on: December 02, 2012, 01:57:12 PM »
bummer....other than GC's what a good free way in israel to meet minimum spend w/o chase a/a risk?

Amazon payments mixed with regular spend, Me'urav yerushalmi
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2025 on: December 02, 2012, 02:01:52 PM »
safek l'chumra or lekulah?
go for it, and use your card for daily spending as well

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2026 on: December 02, 2012, 02:38:10 PM »
go for it, and use your card for daily spending as well

prob is...with amex out due to f/r last year, i dont want to take any risk whatsoever...although i use the ink card for daily spending and the amazon charges would be mixed in...just dont want to take any extra risk

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2027 on: December 02, 2012, 03:45:40 PM »
prob is...with amex out due to f/r last year, i dont want to take any risk whatsoever...although i use the ink card for daily spending and the amazon charges would be mixed in...just dont want to take any extra risk
I think you're being too risk-adverse, but then again, it's your decision.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2028 on: December 02, 2012, 03:57:23 PM »
I think you're being too risk-adverse, but then again, it's your decision.

Same as with me, I'm happy "punishing" Amex for their F/R, Chase and I win and most of the time I don't even miss Amex that much.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2029 on: December 04, 2012, 08:10:58 AM »
Is there any danger in using a business card for something clearly personal like a dentist?

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Re: Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2030 on: December 04, 2012, 08:11:16 AM »
Is there any danger in using a business card for something clearly personal like a dentist?

Nope.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2032 on: December 04, 2012, 08:30:30 AM »
bummer....other than GC's what a good free way in israel to meet minimum spend w/o chase a/a risk?
If you shop at the makolet around you and have an account with them you can ask him to charge your cc and youll just have a credit on your account for that much money.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2033 on: December 04, 2012, 09:20:49 AM »
bummer....other than GC's what a good free way in israel to meet minimum spend w/o chase a/a risk?
I'm still looking for it. Let me know what you find...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2034 on: December 05, 2012, 01:39:37 PM »
When is it safe to start applying again for chase cards? I was shut down about a year ago...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2035 on: December 05, 2012, 02:45:22 PM »
If you shop at the makolet around you and have an account with them you can ask him to charge your cc and youll just have a credit on your account for that much money.
if its one of the major Chain stores, at least buy alot of money in the store gift cards for a 5-10% discount. So you get something at least.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2036 on: December 08, 2012, 10:24:55 PM »
My Client just got a letter over Shabbos !  :'( :'(
Her Account will be closed as of the 12th!  >:( >:(
5 days of transfers!  ::) ::) :-\ :-\ :o :o
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Re: Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2037 on: December 08, 2012, 10:28:52 PM »
My Client just got a letter over Shabbos !  :'( :'(
Her Account will be closed as of the 12th!  >:( >:(
5 days of transfers!  ::) ::) :-\ :-\ :o :o
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It seems like she was asking for it with all those transfers from various people.
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Re: Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2038 on: December 08, 2012, 10:37:18 PM »
It seems like she was asking for it with all those transfers from various people.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2039 on: December 08, 2012, 10:41:57 PM »
At least she got a warning and a few days to cash out if needed.
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