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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1710354 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2060 on: December 10, 2012, 12:23:47 PM »

2) Very unlikely, but there have been a few who have managed it.
3) Unlikely.
So a family member of mine received "the letter" from chase due to me transferring UR points pn their account. The thing is that person received UR points from her spouse

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2061 on: December 10, 2012, 12:26:01 PM »
Who gets THE LETTER? sender or receiver?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2062 on: December 10, 2012, 12:26:36 PM »
Who gets THE LETTER? sender or receiver?

She was both
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2063 on: December 10, 2012, 12:28:05 PM »
1) Receiving from a non-spouse is against the T&C and is (obv) a trigger.

So a family member of mine received "the letter" from chase due to me transferring UR points pn their account. The thing is that person received UR points from her spouse and sent those UR points together with her own UR points to a different persons (not a family member) FFN 5minutes later.
First of all I had did not know that was a trigger...anyone else got a/a'd for transferring to united?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2064 on: December 10, 2012, 12:34:38 PM »




Ah, "pn" must me "on" and not "to."

Gotta love the English language.

In any event, as has been stated here a bunch of times, sending to a UA account which is not yours is an A/A trigger, especially in light of the new warning.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2065 on: December 10, 2012, 12:55:41 PM »
Ah, "pn" must me "on" and not "to."

Gotta love the English language..
Sorry about that
 
So if I leave it alone...what's the worst that happens? Lose my 1000 points and CL?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2066 on: December 10, 2012, 12:56:39 PM »
Sorry about that
 
So if I leave it alone...what's the worst that happens? Lose my 1000 points and CL?

If the letter said you'd be only losing your SP account, then that's what I'd go by.

I'd preemptively close and xfer the CL, though.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2067 on: December 10, 2012, 01:06:34 PM »
If the letter said you'd be only losing your SP account, then that's what I'd go by.

I'd preemptively close and xfer the CL, though.
Thanks
They would allow me to transfer CL and close myself even though they might see that chase will be closing it in two days?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2068 on: December 10, 2012, 01:13:29 PM »
...and didn't survive.

(But was able to salvage his points.)

I didn't want to give away the ending.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2069 on: December 10, 2012, 01:16:42 PM »
Thanks
They would allow me to transfer CL and close myself even though they might see that chase will be closing it in two days?
Interesting post by a blogger who was hit with the A/A

http://hackmytrip.com/2012/12/what-i-did-when-chase-tried-to-cancel-my-sapphire-preferred-card/
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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2070 on: December 10, 2012, 01:32:45 PM »
@mmerms

Was the spouses last name matching?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2071 on: December 10, 2012, 03:48:07 PM »
@mmerms

Was the spouses last name matching?
Yes
I'm not that worried because it was one of two SP cards that didnt have that much CL and only had 1000 UR in account.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2072 on: December 10, 2012, 03:53:57 PM »
I didn't want to give away the ending.

The ending is obvious, the bloggger's title is misleading ("tried"?). At least Chase A/As re much more managable in their current iteration.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2073 on: December 10, 2012, 05:19:41 PM »
So can you still transfer points to ffn, or another chase card after getting the letter...I just got it

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2074 on: December 10, 2012, 05:20:52 PM »
So can you still transfer points to ffn, or another chase card after getting the letter...I just got it
Yes...I just did it to a different SP card
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2075 on: December 10, 2012, 05:36:47 PM »
Yes...I just did it to a different SP card

Not sure that's so smart. I woulda simply xferred to a partner.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2076 on: December 10, 2012, 05:38:28 PM »
Not sure that's so smart. I woulda simply xferred to a partner.

Oh shoots..kinda late...cant really undo it..can I?
Why dont you think it was so smart? I was thinking of just not even touching the 1k UR points..
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« Reply #2077 on: December 10, 2012, 05:39:15 PM »
Oh shoots..kinda late...cant really undo it..can I?
Why dont you think it was so smart? I was thinking of just not even touching the 1k UR points..

Your account is under review. Transferring to another account, especially if it's not a spouse, is just asking for it IMO.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2078 on: December 10, 2012, 05:42:07 PM »
Your account is under review. Transferring to another account, especially if it's not a spouse, is just asking for it IMO.

Youre saying even transferring from one SP (the one A/A'd) to another SP in  the same account/cardholder is not the safest?
I didnt transfer it to a different person..just transferred to a different card in the same online account...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2079 on: December 10, 2012, 05:44:06 PM »
Youre saying even transferring from one SP (the one A/A'd) to another SP in  the same account/cardholder is not the safest?
I didnt transfer it to a different person..just transferred to a different card in the same online account...

Oh, I got ya. Disregard.
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