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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1698303 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2120 on: December 11, 2012, 01:49:52 PM »
Can i move the whole CL from a card and leave the CL 0 and still leave the card open?
Is this after you got a letter that chase is shutting down the card?  If yes, just transfer the CL and shut the card down yourself
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2121 on: December 11, 2012, 01:51:26 PM »
Is this after you got a letter that chase is shutting down the card?  If yes, just transfer the CL and shut the card down yourself
No b´h didnt get the letter, asking in general!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2122 on: December 11, 2012, 02:33:12 PM »
What did u do that u got this letter?

UR>UR

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2123 on: December 11, 2012, 02:34:06 PM »
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2124 on: December 11, 2012, 02:38:30 PM »
I don't think I've mentioned this here before, but if Chase is going to A/A at least the new procedures are (relatively) tolerable:
1. You get advance notice.
2. You are able to use your points, albeit within a few days.
3. It's only that one card that's hit.
4. It doesn't seem to make you blacklisted (at least in many recent cases).

Nevertheless, my heart still goes out to those A/A'd, I am hoping I fly under the radar (Ka"H).
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2125 on: December 11, 2012, 02:41:13 PM »
I don't think I've mentioned this here before, but if Chase is going to A/A at least the new procedures are (relatively) tolerable:
1. You get advance notice.
2. You are able to use your points, albeit within a few days.
3. It's only that one card that's hit.
4. It doesn't seem to make you blacklisted (at least in many recent cases).

Nevertheless, my heart still goes out to those A/A'd, I am hoping I fly under the radar (Ka"H).
5. Only SP. No Ink/Freedom, so far.
6. just UR>UR, no UR>LP, so far.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2126 on: December 11, 2012, 02:43:18 PM »
5. Only SP. No Ink/Freedom, so far.
6. just UR>UR, no UR>LP, so far.

5. Ink has happened, as has Freedom (albeit rarely for Freedom), more coming soon IMHO.
6. I don't think UR>LP (LP? ???) is coming anytime soon, hopefully I'm right about that.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2127 on: December 11, 2012, 02:44:11 PM »
5. Only SP. No Ink/Freedom, so far.
6. just UR>UR, no UR>LP, so far.

Incorrect: My friends INK was subject to the same letter. So far no reports of UR>FF

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2129 on: December 11, 2012, 02:46:52 PM »
Incorrect: My friends INK was subject to the same letter. So far no reports of UR>FF
I received UR from spouse then transferred UR to someones FF...got the letter
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2130 on: December 11, 2012, 02:47:02 PM »
(LP? ???)
Loyalty Program?
How'd you know whats might coming or not? I hope you're right though.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2131 on: December 11, 2012, 02:49:23 PM »
I received UR from spouse then transferred UR to someones FF...got the letter
I hope you call the execs and tell them that your only UR-UR transfer was from your spouse in that case.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2132 on: December 11, 2012, 02:51:51 PM »
So Chase's response to the points market seems to be to close accounts of sellers?

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I hope you call the execs and tell them that your only UR-UR transfer was from your spouse in that case.

And when the execs review and they see a UR-->FF transfer that doesn't match his name?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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So Chase's response to the points market seems to be to close accounts of sellers?

Sellers?  ???

These are receivers/buyers.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2135 on: December 11, 2012, 02:53:35 PM »
I hope you call the execs and tell them that your only UR-UR transfer was from your spouse in that case.
In any event, as has been stated here a bunch of times, sending to a UA account which is not yours is an A/A trigger, especially in light of the new warning.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2136 on: December 11, 2012, 02:55:26 PM »
I hope you call the execs and tell them that your only UR-UR transfer was from your spouse in that case.

I'm done with that card...put the UR in other SP, transferred CL into other SP, then closed it.  Dont see why thats any different than if the AF is coming up and doing that...?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2137 on: December 11, 2012, 03:02:08 PM »
And when the execs review and they see a UR-->FF transfer that doesn't match his name?
What's the worst that can happen? The card is being shut down.
And nobody has been reported to be shut down for UR>FF.

I'm done with that card...put the UR in other SP, transferred CL into other SP, then closed it.  Dont see why thats any different than if the AF is coming up and doing that...?
Because that black mark will stay on your permanent file now.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2138 on: December 11, 2012, 03:02:13 PM »
Sellers?  ???

These are receivers/buyers.

Sorry... was just skimming recent pages of long thread and misread some posters' scenarios.
Are sellers seemingly safe then from these letters?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2139 on: December 11, 2012, 03:04:02 PM »
Because that black mark will stay on your permanent file now.
Black mark? ???
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