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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706031 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2180 on: December 17, 2012, 05:55:35 PM »
I had this problem with chase and after getting a few pointers from a ddf'r via PM (thank you for your help!), and doing a little of my own research and contacting some people in Chase I was very recently able to get all my cards reinstated, they even reinstated an account I closed in order to open a sapphire.  Took some work but glad to be back. I even got them to apologize to me for the abrupt closure esp. that I was such a good customer....

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2181 on: December 17, 2012, 06:05:08 PM »
Gonna need more details than that :P
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2182 on: December 17, 2012, 07:26:46 PM »
Ouch!
That makes F/R seem mild.

Do you bank with Chase?
whats the maskone does it have to do if you have checking account with chase ?
Dont have the time to read thru the whole thread .

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2183 on: December 17, 2012, 07:48:19 PM »
Dont have the time to read thru the whole thread .

Anybody wanna wiki this behemoth of a thread? :P

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2184 on: December 18, 2012, 01:53:39 PM »
When we discuss UR>UR as being a trigger, does that include Freedom points to a spouse's UR account?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2185 on: December 18, 2012, 02:03:46 PM »
When we discuss UR>UR as being a trigger, does that include Freedom points to a spouse's UR account?
No.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2186 on: December 19, 2012, 02:17:17 PM »
Does anyone think paying a large chase cc bill in a branch with cash is a red flag?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2187 on: December 19, 2012, 07:23:06 PM »
Sell them, close the account and then apply again in a couple months.
When closing a sapphire card would the points in the UR account stay active even if there is no live CC linked to them?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2188 on: December 19, 2012, 07:25:38 PM »
When closing a sapphire card would the points in the UR account stay active even if there is no live CC linked to them?

No.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2189 on: December 19, 2012, 10:44:59 PM »
No.

well...... I got the letter, but first preempted Chase and closed the card on my own. I've discovered that I can still make UR>FF transfers even though the acct is officially shut. (UR>UR also works)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2190 on: December 20, 2012, 12:02:39 AM »
well...... I got the letter, but first preempted Chase and closed the card on my own. I've discovered that I can still make UR>FF transfers even though the acct is officially shut. (UR>UR also works)
For how long?
(I know that with amex you still have the points for a while but only can be used to buy stuff from amex not FF transfers.)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2191 on: December 20, 2012, 12:13:32 AM »
A friend of mine just got the dreaded shutdown letter. All he did was make a single 50k transfer
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2192 on: December 20, 2012, 12:39:06 AM »
A friend of mine just got the dreaded shutdown letter. All he did was make a single 50k transfer
What type of transfer?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2193 on: December 20, 2012, 12:40:11 AM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2194 on: December 20, 2012, 12:48:59 AM »
A friend of mine just got the dreaded shutdown letter. All he did was make a single 50k transfer

All accounts shut or just the one?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2195 on: December 20, 2012, 12:54:39 AM »
All accounts shut or just the one?
just the 1
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2196 on: December 20, 2012, 01:26:48 AM »
just the 1
was that a sending or receiving transfer? was the other account closed?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2197 on: December 20, 2012, 01:52:08 AM »
was that a sending or receiving transfer? was the other account closed?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2198 on: December 20, 2012, 07:16:46 AM »
was that a sending or receiving transfer? was the other account closed?
Why would they shut down the receiving account?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2199 on: December 20, 2012, 07:28:27 AM »
Why would they shut down the receiving account?
Against the T&C's...that's what most people are reporting the reason for the A/A
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