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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699015 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2240 on: December 27, 2012, 08:21:44 PM »
If you dont mind me asking how long is your credit history

3 years now...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2241 on: December 27, 2012, 08:25:17 PM »
She told me that at this time there is nothing she can do, but i should read up to see how i could fix my credit....
and she is not allowed to give me credit help....


ANY ADVICE PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSEE!

I dont get this Why did she say this, there is nothing wrong with your credit

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2242 on: December 27, 2012, 08:26:43 PM »
I dont get this Why did she say this, there is nothing wrong with your credit

what would u suggest from here, would HUCA work?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2243 on: December 27, 2012, 08:30:19 PM »
what would u suggest from here, would HUCA work?
I would try HUCA and explain clearly that you have an income and you want to continue doing business with chase and you have very good credit and your not sure why they gave you so much credit you just wanted the different because blah blah....  try to keep it short and easy to understand but definitely HUCA

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2244 on: December 27, 2012, 11:04:46 PM »
Is calling recon to push through a card a trigger for AA?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2245 on: December 28, 2012, 09:02:27 AM »
Is calling recon to push through a card a trigger for AA?
no reports to that extent

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2246 on: December 28, 2012, 01:49:49 PM »
So the manger KIM called me today, and asked if i had any further questions, more then what i was told yesterday.

I told her i did, and started off with the  whole surprise why i was close down, and if just on Friday i was accepted to more cards and now you are telling that i have too much available credit, with too little credit history then u should not have accepted me...

So she told me that she is not only bothered by my available credit by chase b, but also all my cards i have with other banks, and then she told that i have 60k of available credit and thats too much with such a small credit history, so i told her the only issues is that i only have 30k of available with the cards that i have open, but she said even that is too much, and she is counting cards that i closed and she was not interested to budge....

So does any one  have any experience with this, or any ideas of what i should do from here, would HUCA work etc.?


I would appreciate any help!!!
i had they same issue back in may 2012 i tried HUCA a few time even a few months later my History is 10 years of good history even my bank manager tried (i have in a business account $40k) but as of now still closed

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2247 on: December 29, 2012, 06:58:39 PM »
i had they same issue back in may 2012 i tried HUCA a few time even a few months later my History is 10 years of good history even my bank manager tried (i have in a business account $40k) but as of now still closed

What was the reason they said they are closing u down?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2248 on: December 29, 2012, 08:29:54 PM »
SHEEEEZE
Just did a 4bm with chase.. probably my 4th time (doing a 4bm) this year... Now rethinking to even call recon

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2249 on: December 29, 2012, 09:20:01 PM »
if I am making chase cards for my first time, should I be afraid to do a 3/4BM if it will cause an A/A?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2250 on: December 29, 2012, 09:26:36 PM »
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2251 on: December 29, 2012, 09:28:50 PM »
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
so what would you recommend me to do?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2252 on: December 29, 2012, 09:42:44 PM »
I havent opened any new chase cards in a while (about 6 months). I got a whole line up of chase ccs (freedom, SP, UA, SW and bold). I am a churner, but a cautious one. Was gonna go for the ink plus and ink classic in a 2 bbm. Is it high risk these days? tia

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2253 on: December 30, 2012, 07:05:38 AM »
SHEEEEZE
Just did a 4bm with chase.. probably my 4th time (doing a 4bm) this year... Now rethinking to even call recon
Good luck keep us posted!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2254 on: December 30, 2012, 11:21:09 AM »
Any one who had their account reopened, could please report how u did it?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2255 on: December 30, 2012, 12:26:28 PM »
Any one who had their account reopened, could please report how u did it?
Maybe read through the thread, and locate the members who were A/A'd for the same reason as you and shoot them a PM.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2256 on: December 30, 2012, 01:27:54 PM »
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
so any help on what is my best chance of applying for as many cards as possible without triggering an a/a if its my first time applying for chase cards?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2257 on: December 30, 2012, 02:10:52 PM »
Going to close a couple of dormant citi cards as the cl there is not worth much- question is how long does it take for this to reflect in my credit reports so that chase will see less available unused credit?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2258 on: December 30, 2012, 02:41:14 PM »
Next statement closing date although sometimes closing an account can post earlier
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2259 on: December 30, 2012, 03:09:54 PM »
What was the reason they said they are closing u down?

i had the same issue back in may 2012 i tried HUCA a few time even a few months later my History is 10 years of good history even my bank manager tried (i have in a business account $40k) but as of now still closed

@miles, I wouldn't discourage @Reb Jo from calling everyday... You never know.. If what he says is true, he has Avery valid and strong argument which although once A/Ad with an entire protofio shut, your chances are pretty slim.. I wouldn't give up so easily..
As I said, you might get a reasonable rep at higher levels to listen to you and at the very least allow you to redeem your points/miles..

Nothing to lose [IMHO] from HUCA 6 times a day for 2 months in a row...