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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700305 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2500 on: April 07, 2013, 07:31:10 PM »
This thread has become too active r"l.

Anyway, is it worth to transfer my UR to United and take the hit of being less worth and then just sell the United points to avoid risk? Or is anywhere else a better place to transfer if I should only transfer to my name?
Contact the buyer and tell him the sitch.


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2501 on: April 07, 2013, 07:33:04 PM »
Contact the buyer and tell him the sitch.

Would you please elaborate?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2502 on: April 07, 2013, 07:35:18 PM »
Would you please elaborate?
Ask him to give you the rate of UR. 


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2503 on: April 07, 2013, 07:46:37 PM »
Transferring to United under another name. Is that an issue? I'm new to this. Is the only issue transferring to other UR accounts?

Any answers for this? Transferring UR points to someone else's United account?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2504 on: April 07, 2013, 08:32:31 PM »
Ask him to give you the rate of UR.

Worked in my situation with the combination of miles.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2505 on: April 07, 2013, 08:33:37 PM »
Worked in my situation with the combination of miles.

סימנא טבא.
My 613th comment in reply to MEIR613...  ;)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2506 on: April 07, 2013, 09:58:42 PM »
I can't log in online seems they shut me...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2507 on: April 07, 2013, 10:03:13 PM »
I can't log in online seems they shut me...
It doesn't seem anything.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2508 on: April 07, 2013, 10:07:51 PM »
Chase.com is an infinite work-in-progress.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2509 on: April 07, 2013, 11:12:43 PM »
Chase.com is an infinite work-in-progress.
Great line!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2510 on: April 08, 2013, 12:03:03 AM »
Update:
Huge misunderstanding, i tried buying a VR card- they thought it was fraud, for some reason they called my father- as he was listed under emergency contact and said he didn't authorize the charge , he thought they called about his card. He updated the address and acct password as they didnt have his address on file and had a different password. Long story short every time I called they thought I was trying to steal his identity as my password didn't match and they didn't want to provide me info. They shut the account and disabled online access as a security measure. They were going back to recorded conversations to figure out what was going on.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2511 on: April 08, 2013, 12:05:50 AM »
Update:
Huge misunderstanding, i tried buying a VR card- they thought it was fraud, for some reason they called my father- as he was listed under emergency contact and said he didn't authorize the charge , he thought they called about his card. He updated the address as they didnt have his address. Long story short every time I called they thought I was trying to steal his identity and didn't want to provide me info. They shut the account and disabled online access as a security measure. They were going back to recorded conversations to figure out what was going on.
And Mesh was right all along......
Here comes the standard questionnaire:
Did you transfer UR points to accounts not yours or your wife's?
Did you do sudden, out of your usual pattern spendings?
Do you love Chase?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2512 on: April 08, 2013, 12:06:57 AM »
And Mesh was right all along......
He's always right for some reason ;)
I never doubted him...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2513 on: April 08, 2013, 08:44:59 AM »
And here it proves something I wrote in the wiki and been saying that for a while:
When you try to log on to your accounts and your online access is locked, this is actually a GOOD sign.
It means you're definitely NOT going through an A/A.
Its just a security measure, which has to be cleared.
Be persistent and follow up with them and you'll end up having everything back as normal.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2514 on: April 08, 2013, 08:46:12 AM »
And here it proves something I wrote in the wiki and been saying that for a while:
When you try to log on to your accounts and your online access is locked, this is actually a GOOD sign.
It means you're definitely NOT going through an A/A.
Its just a security measure, which has to be cleared.
Be persistent and follow up with them and you'll end up having everything back as normal.

Meshugener is always right...

If you're being A/A'd, they don't give a damn if anyone can access your account. They don't even think about it. It has nothing to do with your online account. It's an internal matter.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2515 on: April 08, 2013, 08:49:20 AM »
@Moshe123:
Today you learned something really important.
A life lesson; say it again and again: Mesh is always...
Love me or hate me. I still love you.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2516 on: April 08, 2013, 08:57:57 AM »
@Moshe123:
Today you learned something really important.
A life lesson; say it again and again: Mesh is always...

Mrs Right: When I married Mr. Right, I didn't know that his first name was Always.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2517 on: April 08, 2013, 09:05:26 AM »
And here it proves something I wrote in the wiki and been saying that for a while:
When you try to log on to your accounts and your online access is locked, this is actually a GOOD sign.
It means you're definitely NOT going through an A/A.
Its just a security measure, which has to be cleared.
Be persistent and follow up with them and you'll end up having everything back as normal.
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There are two types of A/A.

1) They usually only close down the card that was violating the t&c, and they  give you 90 days to transfer your points out

2) They close down all cards immediately  And they don't give you the 90 days.

In the latter case, the online login gets blocked.

So sometimes it does mean trouble.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2518 on: April 08, 2013, 09:06:38 AM »
You are wrong.
Love me or hate me. I still love you.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2519 on: April 08, 2013, 09:08:36 AM »
I mean it Seemed like an aa. At first they cancelled my card,  then hours later my online access was deactivated, thinking everything was shut so I can't access anything.