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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1707339 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2960 on: August 23, 2013, 12:34:30 AM »
And if there is a wave now then anyone who transferred to UA in the past few months is likely toast.
Except that we've see no evidence of a wave.
Lets give it a day or two.

But I doubt we're going to see anything.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2961 on: August 23, 2013, 12:39:13 AM »
Lets give it a day or two.

But I doubt we're going to see anything.
But didn't he say broker accounts got shut?
Those are the ones that usually transfer ur>ua.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2962 on: August 23, 2013, 12:39:53 AM »
And if there is a wave now then anyone who transferred to UA in the past few months is likely toast.
Except that we've see no evidence of a wave.
Some waves start out as ripples.  :)
I would expect the evidence to show up on DDF first. Could also be the case of a broker getting busted and all associated accounts being tainted?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2963 on: August 23, 2013, 12:48:32 AM »

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2964 on: August 23, 2013, 12:51:54 AM »
A smart man  ;)
No, just been there more times than I care to remember.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2965 on: August 23, 2013, 09:24:59 AM »
As Dan said above, its hard to jump into conclusions when we don't know more details about the specific account holder's relationship with Chase and what his credit report looks like.
But one thing everyone should definitely have in mind: do not ever give a broker access to your Chase accounts. If you want to sell them (which I don't recommend) ask the broker where he want to transfer them into, and do it yourself.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2966 on: August 23, 2013, 09:37:46 AM »
How can it be IP based? I hope no one is stupid enough to give a broker access to your account.
You'd be surprised.
But one thing everyone should definitely have in mind: do not ever give a broker access to your Chase accounts. If you want to sell them (which I don't recommend) ask the broker where he want to transfer them into, and do it yourself.
Please read this over and over and over and over and over...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2967 on: August 23, 2013, 09:48:17 AM »
From Friend:

 " I spoke with broker directly. The accounts shut only did UR>UA, never UR>UR."
Tell your friend, he can look in his UR history to check if the broker's saying the truth.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2968 on: August 23, 2013, 09:50:47 AM »
No, i cant be certain why my acct was closed (including checking). But here is the report from a very trustworthy friend


"I just found out right now, otherwise I would have said earlier: Chase has been shutting down accounts, and I mean total A/A (checking, etc) over the last week or so, ***EVEN FOR XFERS TO UA***! Two separate brokers that deal heavy in UR contacted me about it about an hour ago. It seems to be based on IP, so be sure to proxy for Chase if you aren't already."
Why would a broker not hide his IP? I thought that was a must in the business. :o

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2969 on: August 23, 2013, 10:31:35 AM »
Are you sure there wasn't any high credit utilization or crazy spending.

From what I was told, they were using it for regular everyday spending, no shtick involved.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2970 on: August 23, 2013, 11:28:00 AM »
People have been shutdown for no apparent reason before. I don't think we should jump to conclusions based on isolated cases.
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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2971 on: August 23, 2013, 11:42:37 AM »
Please read this over and over and over and over and over...
If I have a broker that I've trusted for the past 2 years I shouldn't give him access? Can you explain why please?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2972 on: August 23, 2013, 11:47:13 AM »
If I have a broker that I've trusted for the past 2 years I shouldn't give him access? Can you explain why please?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2973 on: August 23, 2013, 12:10:59 PM »
Before jumping to conclusions keep in mind we have all been screaming for the past month about moshiach1's anonymous broker and then we found out that he had the check for a month without cashing it.  People seem to leave out a lot of important info....

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Chase closed my account!
« Reply #2974 on: August 30, 2013, 07:11:49 PM »
Basically I have a few CC from chase including some buisness cards, and being that i have a flexible spending limit on those cards i went over with 10k then my spending limit on the buisness cards were. And today i logged into my account and i see that the closed off ALL of my nine accounts personal and buisness even a few accounts from co workers that were just linked to the same tax id as the buisness cards i had! So i called chase and they said that since i went over with my limit they're permanently closing all my accounts and even the points i cannot get back!!  Anyone with any experience with this i would highly appreciate.

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Re: Chase closed my account!
« Reply #2975 on: August 30, 2013, 07:13:10 PM »
See chase A/A thread,  can't post link from phone

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Re: Chase closed my account!
« Reply #2976 on: August 31, 2013, 04:09:00 PM »
Basically I have a few CC from chase including some buisness cards, and being that i have a flexible spending limit on those cards i went over with 10k then my spending limit on the buisness cards were. And today i logged into my account and i see that the closed off ALL of my nine accounts personal and buisness even a few accounts from co workers that were just linked to the same tax id as the buisness cards i had! So i called chase and they said that since i went over with my limit they're permanently closing all my accounts and even the points i cannot get back!!  Anyone with any experience with this i would highly appreciate.
First time going over the limit? on which card did u go over the limit?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2977 on: August 31, 2013, 04:35:23 PM »
Why do people go over the limit reguarly? Seems like it's a recipe for disaster

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2978 on: August 31, 2013, 05:03:17 PM »
Why do people go over the limit reguarly? Seems like it's a recipe for disaster
What do u mean? to earn miles, points.....
If they have where to use it why not?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2979 on: August 31, 2013, 05:28:39 PM »
Why do people go over the limit reguarly? Seems like it's a recipe for disaster
Greed or stupidity?
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