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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1707092 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3140 on: September 30, 2013, 08:49:09 PM »
I had checking account that i got a letter , My concern now is not to reopen the cards , its to get back my points after closing the cards, any idea if its possible to do that ????????????????

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3141 on: September 30, 2013, 08:59:11 PM »
I had checking account that i got a letter , My concern now is not to reopen the cards , its to get back my points after closing the cards, any idea if its possible to do that ????????????????
Do you have a balance with them?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3142 on: September 30, 2013, 10:06:59 PM »
I had checking account that i got a letter , My concern now is not to reopen the cards , its to get back my points after closing the cards, any idea if its possible to do that ????????????????

Not trying to discourage you from trying, but I never got my points back despite asking repeatedly. They kept on quoting the terms that upon cancellation you forfeit your points blah blah blah. I, however had far less points than you at the time.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3143 on: September 30, 2013, 11:36:19 PM »
Definitely sounds like a wave to me.
Reports here almost on a daily basis after an extended period of quiet.
This is on DDF. How is it on FT?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3144 on: September 30, 2013, 11:59:16 PM »
Definitely sounds like a wave to me.
Reports here almost on a daily basis after an extended period of quiet.
This is on DDF. How is it on FT?
Don't know. but as we speak my friend calls me in that a good friend of him just called him that his accounts are closed with 350,000 UR.   >:(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3145 on: October 01, 2013, 12:01:56 AM »
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Quote from: Moshe12 on Today at 06:07:56 pm
Hi everyone , chase closed down 6 of my cards without  any warnings  , and i had over 300k points i called them up and they say they cant  do anything for me , please help me
we are the same boat if you have any solution pls update us
your only option is to sue JPMorgan Chase and Company you can value the points at 3.75 cents per point as that is what it costs to buy them from United website, and add a few bucks for pain and aggravation

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3146 on: October 01, 2013, 12:08:42 AM »
IMO it should of bin announced on the DD main site that due to the latest waive its highly recommended not to keep large amounts of UR. The people who are getting closed with large amounts of UR can't come to them self! imagine running for 2 years to CVS, WM, 7-11, Staples and now....
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3147 on: October 01, 2013, 12:15:39 AM »
I have 1MM+ in my UR and do heavy GC spend and AORs and am not running to transfer out.

Still have yet to hear what percentage of people shut down during this wave have been doing UR transfers.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3148 on: October 01, 2013, 12:27:40 AM »
Dan, they will never shut you down. But for the rest of us...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3149 on: October 01, 2013, 12:29:42 AM »
Dan, they will never shut you down. But for the rest of us...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3150 on: October 01, 2013, 12:43:20 AM »
Dan, they will never shut you down. But for the rest of us...

They won't shut him down because he doesn't sell his UR points lol

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3151 on: October 01, 2013, 12:43:58 AM »
I have 1MM+ in my UR and do heavy GC spend and AORs and am not running to transfer out.

Still have yet to hear what percentage of people shut down during this wave have been doing UR transfers.

Are you talking about UR -> UR or UR -> FFN or both?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3152 on: October 01, 2013, 12:49:05 AM »
Are you talking about UR -> UR or UR -> FFN or both?
Frankly I have no idea but I suspect that most people aren't owning up to everything that they're doing.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3153 on: October 01, 2013, 02:40:14 AM »
Frankly I have no idea but I suspect that most people aren't owning up to everything that they're doing.
Unless they're doing s/t blatantly illegal, I don't know why s/o who is looking for help wouldn't fess up to e/t on DDF.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3154 on: October 01, 2013, 04:23:03 AM »
I have 1MM+ in my UR and do heavy GC spend and AORs and am not running to transfer out.

Still have yet to hear what percentage of people shut down during this wave have been doing UR transfers.
Close to zero!!!! people do know for a while already not to do this.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3155 on: October 01, 2013, 04:24:54 AM »
Frankly I have no idea but I suspect that most people aren't owning up to everything that they're doing.
Was also suspecting this until I heard from people that I personally know YES Chase is shooting down for NOTHING.
Si I would recommend not keeping large amounts of UR.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3156 on: October 01, 2013, 09:25:18 AM »
Close to zero!!!! people do know for a while already not to do this.

Talking about close to zero -- you have close to zero basis for that assertion.

Was also suspecting this until I heard from people that I personally know YES Chase is shooting down for NOTHING.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3157 on: October 01, 2013, 09:52:39 AM »
I have over 100k inkount,  I go by my middle  name and all my credit cards are too.  My United account goes by my first name,  i transferred before,  not much though.

My question is : Should i make a new united account matching my middle name or just transfer to this United account which is my first name,  which doesn't match my ink card as it goes by my middle name  .

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3158 on: October 01, 2013, 10:03:27 AM »
I'm getting slightly nervous due to this wave of shutdowns and was wondering if there is anything I can preemptively do to lessen my risk...
   In the last 10 months I've opened the freedom,sp, Hyatt, and ba. The Hyatt and ba are closed. I also have the ip, ib, and united. I'm just  finishing up the spend on my ib but after that I was wondering if I should close a few of them or that itself might draw unwanted attention?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3159 on: October 01, 2013, 10:39:59 AM »
I'm getting slightly nervous due to this wave of shutdowns and was wondering if there is anything I can preemptively do to lessen my risk...
   In the last 10 months I've opened the freedom,sp, Hyatt, and ba. The Hyatt and ba are closed. I also have the ip, ib, and united. I'm just  finishing up the spend on my ib but after that I was wondering if I should close a few of them or that itself might draw unwanted attention?
Just do everything careful, don't spend to much on GC etc... don't go over your limit or even close..
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