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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1705883 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3200 on: October 02, 2013, 04:23:25 PM »
people who have been unfairly shut down should either file a CFPB complaint: https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/creditcard/ask or if that doesn't work to go file a small claims suit.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3201 on: October 02, 2013, 04:26:56 PM »
I posted a few pages back that my wife got shut down last week.  I just got shut down today.  Exact same situation -- personal cards closed, biz cards open (for the moment), zero suspicious activity except Chase gift cards and an unprofitable checking account (i.e., opened for the $200 bonus and zero activity except as needed to avoid fees).  Neither account was involved in UR transfers of any kind.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3202 on: October 02, 2013, 04:27:03 PM »
people who have been unfairly shut down should either file a CFPB complaint: https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/creditcard/ask or if that doesn't work to go file a small claims suit.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3203 on: October 02, 2013, 04:32:27 PM »
I posted a few pages back that my wife got shut down last week.  I just got shut down today.  Exact same situation -- personal cards closed, biz cards open (for the moment), zero suspicious activity except Chase gift cards and an unprofitable checking account (i.e., opened for the $200 bonus and zero activity except as needed to avoid fees).  Neither account was involved in UR transfers of any kind.
Wife's business cards also still open?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3204 on: October 02, 2013, 04:34:39 PM »
Wife's business cards also still open?
Yes, for the moment.  Won't be surprised if they get axed shortly though.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3205 on: October 02, 2013, 04:36:54 PM »
Yes, for the moment.  Won't be surprised if they get axed shortly though.
Did you save your UR?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3206 on: October 02, 2013, 04:38:50 PM »
Did you save your UR?
First thing I did last week when I saw my wife was shut down was to dump all my UR.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3207 on: October 02, 2013, 10:44:44 PM »
Hello,

I have 4 chase credit cards -all open within the past year. Today I got an alert from Mint that my credit limits have changed to $0. Once logging into my account and speaking to a rep, I was able to confirm that my accounts have been closed!

The reason for this (based on my conversations with lending services) is three folded:
1) large purchases at Apple (about 5k)
2) gift card purchases (2.500)
3) a returned payment from bluebird. This payment was not returned due to insufficient funds, rather it was an error in the way I processed it.
(4) my credit report came back to them with too much credit and too many lines opened recently.

I have 100% on time bill payments. I don't spend close to my limit. And never did or had anything to raise a red flag.

I spoke to three reps. They each asked me to explain the above 3 questions. I had a good excuse for all of them but they keep telling me that given the information in my credit report, they cannot CURRENTLY reinstate my accounts. They did say that I can call back anytime and ask a rep to revue my account and decide wether or not to reinstate it.

I am proposing the following questions to DDF:

I understand that there has been a recent wave of this activity, has anyone successfully been reinstated? And if yes, how?

Does this affect your credit report? If he's how?

Would you recommend I keep trying my luck or wait it out?

Is there a particular department you recommend I contact?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3208 on: October 02, 2013, 10:51:45 PM »
Hello,

I have 4 chase credit cards -all open within the past year. Today I got an alert from Mint that my credit limits have changed to $0. Once logging into my account and speaking to a rep, I was able to confirm that my accounts have been closed!

The reason for this (based on my conversations with lending services) is three folded:
1) large purchases at Apple (about 5k)
2) gift card purchases (2.500)
3) a returned payment from bluebird. This payment was not returned due to insufficient funds, rather it was an error in the way I processed it.
(4) my credit report came back to them with too much credit and too many lines opened recently.

I have 100% on time bill payments. I don't spend close to my limit. And never did or had anything to raise a red flag.

I spoke to three reps. They each asked me to explain the above 3 questions. I had a good excuse for all of them but they keep telling me that given the information in my credit report, they cannot CURRENTLY reinstate my accounts. They did say that I can call back anytime and ask a rep to revue my account and decide wether or not to reinstate it.

I am proposing the following questions to DDF:

I understand that there has been a recent wave of this activity, has anyone successfully been reinstated? And if yes, how?

Does this affect your credit report? If he's how?

Would you recommend I keep trying my luck or wait it out?

Is there a particular department you recommend I contact?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Welcome to the AA club - not a fun place to be. There have been very few reports of reinstatement, there most definitely is no sure-fire way or timeline.

Don't read too much into their offer to 'call back any time.' That's their standard line which they have to say, it means nothing. In fact, if you try calling in a couple of weeks the odds are they won't even be able to find your closed accounts to attempt a reinstatement.

At that point, the only way to for them to even reconsider would be via a new application and even then for only 30 days. Sorry, to be so negative but I've got two years experience battling with Chase. The only department that will even be able to fully understand why your accounts were closed is the Executive department but they won't tell you everything they know.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3209 on: October 02, 2013, 10:57:46 PM »
Thanks, does this affect your credit report?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3210 on: October 02, 2013, 11:05:58 PM »
Maybe would it be a good idea Dan to post on the main site about this crazy wave, and what can possibly be done to get protected, also recommending folks to transfer UR especially if someone know that he lets say just needs the UR for UA he should transfer it and not risk it. you can be sure the comments will be Would I know before.......
And don't forget HT: ilherman, via DDF :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3211 on: October 02, 2013, 11:09:04 PM »
Hello,

I have 4 chase credit cards -all open within the past year. Today I got an alert from Mint that my credit limits have changed to $0. Once logging into my account and speaking to a rep, I was able to confirm that my accounts have been closed!

The reason for this (based on my conversations with lending services) is three folded:
1) large purchases at Apple (about 5k)
2) gift card purchases (2.500)
3) a returned payment from bluebird. This payment was not returned due to insufficient funds, rather it was an error in the way I processed it.
(4) my credit report came back to them with too much credit and too many lines opened recently.

I have 100% on time bill payments. I don't spend close to my limit. And never did or had anything to raise a red flag.

I spoke to three reps. They each asked me to explain the above 3 questions. I had a good excuse for all of them but they keep telling me that given the information in my credit report, they cannot CURRENTLY reinstate my accounts. They did say that I can call back anytime and ask a rep to revue my account and decide wether or not to reinstate it.

I am proposing the following questions to DDF:

I understand that there has been a recent wave of this activity, has anyone successfully been reinstated? And if yes, how?

Does this affect your credit report? If he's how?

Would you recommend I keep trying my luck or wait it out?

Is there a particular department you recommend I contact?

Thanks in advance for your help!
people who have been unfairly shut down should either file a CFPB complaint: https://help.consumerfinance.gov/app/creditcard/ask or if that doesn't work to go file a small claims suit.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3212 on: October 02, 2013, 11:09:34 PM »
I am currently able to log onto my account. Does this mean anything?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3213 on: October 02, 2013, 11:11:48 PM »
I am currently able to log onto my account. Does this mean anything?
generally no. Can you transfer your points?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3214 on: October 02, 2013, 11:12:57 PM »
I don't really have too many....

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3215 on: October 02, 2013, 11:19:13 PM »
Hello,

I have 4 chase credit cards -all open within the past year. Today I got an alert from Mint that my credit limits have changed to $0. Once logging into my account and speaking to a rep, I was able to confirm that my accounts have been closed!

The reason for this (based on my conversations with lending services) is three folded:
1) large purchases at Apple (about 5k)
2) gift card purchases (2.500)
3) a returned payment from bluebird. This payment was not returned due to insufficient funds, rather it was an error in the way I processed it.
(4) my credit report came back to them with too much credit and too many lines opened recently.

I have 100% on time bill payments. I don't spend close to my limit. And never did or had anything to raise a red flag.

I spoke to three reps. They each asked me to explain the above 3 questions. I had a good excuse for all of them but they keep telling me that given the information in my credit report, they cannot CURRENTLY reinstate my accounts. They did say that I can call back anytime and ask a rep to revue my account and decide wether or not to reinstate it.

I am proposing the following questions to DDF:

I understand that there has been a recent wave of this activity, has anyone successfully been reinstated? And if yes, how?

Does this affect your credit report? If he's how?

Would you recommend I keep trying my luck or wait it out?

Is there a particular department you recommend I contact?

Thanks in advance for your help!
What the hell is it a problem to buy 10 iPhones for $5000......
Where did they know you bought GC? and where do they say in the T&C that this is a violation?
How did they see your CR did they do a hard pull without your authorization?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3216 on: October 02, 2013, 11:21:20 PM »
I don't really have too many....
Usually you can log in see your balance and it would say something your accounts has bin closed. is this your scenario?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3217 on: October 02, 2013, 11:25:56 PM »

What the hell is it a problem to buy 10 iPhones for $5000......
I'm not sure...
Where did they know you bought GC? and where do they say in the T&C that this is a violation?
I bought them at chase...
How did they see your CR did they dod a hard pull without your authorization?
I didn't see it...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3218 on: October 02, 2013, 11:26:36 PM »

Usually you can log in see your balance and it would say something your accounts has bin closed. is this your scenario?
i can still log in on the chase app and it showed me my ur balance without any error message...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3219 on: October 02, 2013, 11:27:27 PM »

Usually you can log in see your balance and it would say something your accounts has bin closed. is this your scenario?
i can still log in on the chase app and it showed me my ur balance without any error message...