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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1710190 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4660 on: March 23, 2014, 11:43:21 AM »
Recent reports are, that even if you get shut down you get to keep your points.
So you may keep them where that are.
AFAIK, This has not been the case for everyone.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4661 on: March 23, 2014, 11:49:34 AM »
I definitely do not need this credit. Should I voluntarily ask them to lower my credit lines. Or just close cards without flipping credit in order to avoid AA risk?
What Chase doesn't like is a sudden spike in combined CL, especially when your credit history isn't too long to start with (only 5 years or so), but many other people with longer credit history a slow credit increase have no problems, so if this is a big increase then you might want to consider closing 1 at a time.
AA would cause me a major headache. Though I have paperwork to back all income claims.
AA is not like Amex FR, once you get hit, there is no review and they don't care what you can prove, there is no one to talk to once your AA'd.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4662 on: March 23, 2014, 11:58:20 AM »
What Chase doesn't like is a sudden spike in combined CL, especially when your credit history isn't too long to start with (only 5 years or so), but many other people with longer credit history a slow credit increase have no problems, so if this is a big increase then you might want to consider closing 1 at a time.AA is not like Amex FR, once you get hit, there is no review and they don't care what you can prove, there is no one to talk to once your AA'd.

So this latest app harvest brought in an additional 40k credit limit. But still enough cash in bank to cover the whole credit limit. Should I worry? dont want to lower my score by closing personal cards with high credit limits.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4663 on: March 23, 2014, 09:09:48 PM »
All people I know that chase closed there cc had a sole proprietorship ink card

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4664 on: March 23, 2014, 09:28:21 PM »

All people I know that chase closed there cc had a sole proprietorship ink card
Consistent with the people i know, anybody else?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4665 on: March 23, 2014, 09:39:59 PM »
All people I know that chase closed there cc had a sole proprietorship ink card
I'ts not necessarily related.
I would think the supper majority of aggressive churners have sole-proprietorship ink cards

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4666 on: March 24, 2014, 12:37:06 AM »
All people I know that chase closed there cc had a sole proprietorship ink card
I did not. This was 2.5 years ago and I don't recall if Ink was all the rage back then.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4667 on: March 24, 2014, 09:52:38 AM »
All people I know that chase closed there cc had a sole proprietorship ink card
+1

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4668 on: March 24, 2014, 10:14:17 AM »
Naarishkeit.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4669 on: March 24, 2014, 11:12:09 AM »
i only had a freedom card but was approved for ink plus. never even got to activate it

And theory #2 (goes really together with #1):

Can it be that only if there was abuse involved, you're black listed, and you're locked out of their system, but when there was no abuse involved (i.e checking still open) you're not black listed and you could eventually apply and get approved for Chase cc's?

i really hope this is true. in about 6 months applying for 1 card i do believe i should be approved, but only time will tell.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4670 on: March 24, 2014, 02:32:30 PM »
All people I know that chase closed there cc had a sole proprietorship ink card
Naarishkeit.
based on someone that didn't apply in the past 16 months,
and didn't max any of his personal cards this is the only thing that makes sense

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4671 on: March 24, 2014, 02:35:02 PM »
Right. Chase is now targeting all small business owners as well as Satmar chasidim and people in the Lakewood freezer for their shutdowns  ::)

Posters in this thread on here never cease to amaze me.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4672 on: March 24, 2014, 02:36:52 PM »
based on someone that didn't apply in the past 16 months,
and didn't max any of his personal cards this is the only thing that makes sense
Maybe it was "stuff happening" in his checking account that caused it?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4673 on: March 24, 2014, 02:38:53 PM »
Maybe it was "stuff happening" in his checking account that caused it?
doesn't bank with chase

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4674 on: March 24, 2014, 02:42:45 PM »
doesn't bank with chase
We'll then I guess it's this
I heard they are only closing down users who had metzizah bpeh

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4675 on: March 24, 2014, 05:59:50 PM »


Posters in this thread on here never cease to amaze me.
we try our best to amaze you. That's the most we can do to show appreciation for this wonderful site.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4676 on: March 24, 2014, 06:21:00 PM »
Posters in this thread on here never cease to amaze me.
+10000000 thought so for a while now this thread started on track but took a quick turn with all these noobs and members]http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=344.msg769117#msg769117]members that have a deep understanding and rely on cs reps.
 much of this thread should be moved too here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=344.msg769117#msg769117
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4677 on: March 24, 2014, 06:50:51 PM »

+10000000 thought so for a while now this thread started on track but took a quick turn with all these noobs and members]http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=344.msg769117#msg769117]members that have a deep understanding and rely on cs reps.
 much of this thread should be moved too here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=344.msg769117#msg769117
Just thought I'll point out that a noob on this forum doesn't necessarily mean a noob in the business, one is not a noob just because he decided to "become a member" AFTER experiencing in the real world for a few years the ups and the downs, failures and success, ins and outs of this business. Nuf said.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4678 on: March 24, 2014, 06:57:44 PM »
Just thought I'll point out that a noob on this forum doesn't necessarily mean a noob in the business, one is not a noob just because he decided to "become a member" AFTER experiencing in the real world for a few years the ups and the downs, failures and success, ins and outs of this business. Nuf said.
This thread isn't talking about "business" (whatever you've decided that means); it's talking specifically about Chase A/A.

And with respect to the topic at hand, many are indeed n00bs.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4679 on: March 24, 2014, 07:02:08 PM »
Right. Chase is now targeting all small business owners as well as Satmar chasidim and people in the Lakewood freezer for their shutdowns  ::)
They also throw a goy into the mix just to throw everyone off.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half