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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1698149 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4720 on: April 18, 2014, 02:17:13 PM »
Amex? You're in the wrong thread.

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According to the wiki they look at the total credit limit..
So I think he is asking if he lowers credit limit with Amex would he be less of a candidate for a Chase A/A

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4721 on: April 18, 2014, 02:45:36 PM »
lets hope it stops there
No reason to think otherwise.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4722 on: April 18, 2014, 02:47:59 PM »
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According to the wiki they look at the total credit limit..
So I think he is asking if he lowers credit limit with Amex would he be less of a candidate for a Chase A/A

Exactly you are a genius. Also it's buisness and personal?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4723 on: April 18, 2014, 02:48:42 PM »
Amex? You're in the wrong thread.

Think out of the box not every time I use Amex it has no connection to chase

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4724 on: April 18, 2014, 02:49:32 PM »
Also it's buisness and personal?
If business cards do not show on your report how would they know?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4725 on: April 18, 2014, 02:57:47 PM »
If business cards do not show on your report how would they know?
He may be referring to Chase biz cards.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4726 on: April 18, 2014, 03:20:09 PM »
IME they did mention my Chase business lines while detailing my "large credit lines",
But that was on the phone though while the rep was manually going over all of my accounts, not sure if it was an actual trigger

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4727 on: April 18, 2014, 03:32:23 PM »

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According to the wiki they look at the total credit limit..
So I think he is asking if he lowers credit limit with Amex would he be less of a candidate for a Chase A/A
I stand corrected.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4728 on: April 18, 2014, 05:33:27 PM »
April 17, 2014
Chase Earns Record Five TNS Choice Awards For Outstanding Performance

April 17, 2014 – NEW YORK – Chase earned an unprecedented five awards for achieving outstanding performance in consumer banking in 2014, according to TNS, the world's largest custom research company. Chase has received more TNS Choice Awards than any other company in a single year.
 
Chase earned National Achievement in Consumer Banking and in Premier Banking, as well as Regional Achievement in the East United States, Central United States, and West United States categories. The Premier Banking award reflects outstanding service to customers with assets greater than $100,000.
 
"Receiving this recognition is a great accomplishment for our entire Chase team. We work hard to provide our customers with the best customer experience and we are proud that TNS’s research reflects our dedication,” said Barry Sommers, CEO of Consumer Banking at Chase, which serves 21 million U.S. consumer households.
 
The TNS Choice Awards recognize financial institutions who are the best among their peers in acquiring, retaining and developing customers. TNS conducted interviews with 25,000 consumers across the United States to determine their top selections.
 
"Consumer preferences for Chase are now higher than we’ve ever measured, and substantially higher than any competitor," said TNS Senior Vice President Bill Matlack. "Chase has strong and improving client loyalty which is being rewarded with superior customer retention and share of wallet performance." 
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4729 on: April 18, 2014, 05:38:32 PM »
April 17, 2014
Chase Earns Record Five TNS Choice Awards For Outstanding Performance

April 17, 2014 – NEW YORK – Chase earned an unprecedented five awards for achieving outstanding performance in consumer banking in 2014, according to TNS, the world's largest custom research company. Chase has received more TNS Choice Awards than any other company in a single year.
 
Chase earned National Achievement in Consumer Banking and in Premier Banking, as well as Regional Achievement in the East United States, Central United States, and West United States categories. The Premier Banking award reflects outstanding service to customers with assets greater than $100,000.
 
"Receiving this recognition is a great accomplishment for our entire Chase team. We work hard to provide our customers with the best customer experience and we are proud that TNS’s research reflects our dedication,” said Barry Sommers, CEO of Consumer Banking at Chase, which serves 21 million U.S. consumer households.
 
The TNS Choice Awards recognize financial institutions who are the best among their peers in acquiring, retaining and developing customers. TNS conducted interviews with 25,000 consumers across the United States to determine their top selections.
 
"Consumer preferences for Chase are now higher than we’ve ever measured, and substantially higher than any competitor," said TNS Senior Vice President Bill Matlack. "Chase has strong and improving client loyalty which is being rewarded with superior customer retention and share of wallet performance."
If only the same would apply to those with greater than 100k of assets in miles...  :'(

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4730 on: April 24, 2014, 11:01:49 AM »
me and wife just got AAed  same day, each had 4 cards with chase no biz cards, checking is still open.
reason too many cards opened last year even accounts from being additional user.
too much CL from all banks.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4731 on: April 24, 2014, 11:40:11 AM »
me and wife just got AAed  same day, each had 4 cards with chase no biz cards, checking is still open.
reason too many cards opened last year even accounts from being additional user.
too much CL from all banks.

Usually with chase if someone is A/A'd the whole family gets A/A'd
 
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4732 on: April 24, 2014, 11:52:12 AM »
Usually with chase if someone is A/A'd the whole family gets A/A'd
It depends on what the AA is for. My AA has had no effect on anyone in my family.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4733 on: April 24, 2014, 12:02:40 PM »
does FT have a AA thread?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4734 on: April 24, 2014, 12:03:43 PM »
does FT have a AA thread?
Yes and so does FWF.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4735 on: April 24, 2014, 12:05:55 PM »
Yes and so does FWF.
link please? I couldn't find it.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4737 on: April 26, 2014, 09:44:40 PM »
My sister and brother in law each had one chase card. Last week my sister went for a 3bm and two days later her existing card and her husbands card were shut down. She signed up from my computer (ip address) I've been planning to go for a 3bm now. Are there any risks involved? Are my accounts now linked with their's? (I've done a 2bm 3bm  and 4bm in the last year and never had issues)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4738 on: April 26, 2014, 11:02:57 PM »
Right. Chase is now targeting all small business owners as well as Satmar chasidim and people in the Lakewood freezer for their shutdowns  ::)

Posters in this thread on here never cease to amaze me.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4739 on: April 26, 2014, 11:04:11 PM »
You can add anther group to the list
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101616944
Maybe I wasn't shut down for MO's.  :P
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