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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1698439 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4900 on: July 01, 2014, 03:08:43 PM »
Is it safe to pay a business CC from my personal account?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4901 on: July 01, 2014, 03:27:28 PM »
yes

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4902 on: July 01, 2014, 03:27:42 PM »
How do you go about sueing?

let us know the outcome
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4903 on: July 01, 2014, 04:31:10 PM »
I'm not sure if anyone posted this, but I would think that you should fill it out. You never know.

http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/30463-chase-rewards-points-cancellation-class-action-lawsuit-investigation/

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4904 on: July 01, 2014, 06:25:42 PM »
can we get our accounts reinstated since we did not do anything wrong? Everything was in their T&C.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4905 on: July 01, 2014, 06:41:35 PM »
can we get our accounts reinstated since we did not do anything wrong? Everything was in their T&C.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4906 on: July 01, 2014, 09:34:08 PM »
can we get our accounts reinstated since we did not do anything wrong? Everything was in their T&C.

Their T&C also say they have the right to shut you down at any time for any reason (or none at all)...or something to that effect.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4907 on: July 01, 2014, 09:43:55 PM »
Their T&C also say they have the right to shut you down at any time for any reason (or none at all)...or something to that effect.
No it doesn't say none at all -just for any reason.

But anyhoo that's t&c. There are consumer protection laws (for personal accounts) that can make such a clause illegal

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4908 on: July 02, 2014, 12:45:36 AM »
I doubt you can sue them in a regular court, they have mandatory arbitration rules that you agreed to in the t&c and the chances of winning with such arbitration are slim to none.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4909 on: July 02, 2014, 12:50:02 AM »
I doubt you can sue them in a regular court, they have mandatory arbitration rules that you agreed to in the t&c and the chances of winning with such arbitration are slim to none.
+1. Your only chance I'd worth small claims court.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4910 on: July 06, 2014, 10:28:06 AM »
I want to avoid hanging out in this thread, and therefore have the following A/A prevention questions. I have a few thresh-holds to meet and plan on going to Stop and Shop later, and take advantage of gas rewards. Is buying $2k in GC's a trigger? What's considered prudent?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4911 on: July 06, 2014, 10:42:08 AM »
is buy a 2k TV a trigger? start thinking in terms of purchases not GC's.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4912 on: July 06, 2014, 10:42:54 AM »
is buy a 2k TV a trigger? start thinking in terms of purchases not GC's.

Don't know. Is it? Anyone want to chime in here?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4913 on: July 06, 2014, 10:44:19 AM »
Don't know. Is it? Anyone want to chime in here?
that was a rhetorical question. you will be fine.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4914 on: July 06, 2014, 10:45:31 AM »
that was a rhetorical question. you will be fine.

Okay. Thanks. I plan on hitting up stop and shop later, and hope there are still $500 GC's remaining.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4915 on: July 06, 2014, 11:14:39 AM »
is buy a 2k TV a trigger? start thinking in terms of purchases not GC's.
Why would you say that? Won't Chase see that you purchased gc through Secure Transaction Data?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4916 on: July 06, 2014, 02:07:35 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4917 on: July 08, 2014, 08:49:26 AM »
Bought $2500  in GC's on Sunday and want to load up on another $2500 today. Is there any reason to avoid this? I know, we normally try to abide by the principle of "slow and steady wins the race", but I want to take advantage of the gas promo. TIA
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4918 on: July 08, 2014, 09:28:30 AM »
Bought $2500  in GC's on Sunday and want to load up on another $2500 today. Is there any reason to avoid this? I know, we normally try to abide by the principle of "slow and steady wins the race", but I want to take advantage of the gas promo. TIA
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4919 on: July 08, 2014, 10:31:38 AM »
Because if the cc people ask, you have a legit reason that doesn't have to do with taking advantage of the them.

The problem is that with Chase, they don't ask.  They just shut you down if they don't like what you're doing.  From there, it's a next-to-impossible chance of getting your cards reopened.