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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700600 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4980 on: July 28, 2014, 01:06:27 AM »
Was A/A about a year ago and was just approved for a sapphire preferred (20k limit) and a ink bold (5k limit). Lets see if it works/
Nice! Did you try to fight it a year ago?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4981 on: July 28, 2014, 09:52:35 PM »
a/aed 3 months ago and  applied now for the ba card and this is the results .

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4982 on: July 28, 2014, 10:21:40 PM »
a/aed 3 months ago and  applied now for the ba card and this is the results .
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4983 on: July 28, 2014, 10:22:22 PM »
Not looking good for us..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4984 on: July 29, 2014, 07:27:46 AM »
Ouch!!
Do you know why you were A/A'd?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4985 on: July 29, 2014, 11:33:30 AM »
Ouch!!
Do you know why you were A/A'd?
was A/A'd because the first payment that was made to the sapphire card was returned from the bank

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4986 on: July 29, 2014, 12:26:46 PM »
was A/A'd because the first payment that was made to the sapphire card was returned from the bank

Elaborate, please.

You did AP, transferred to Chase, and then subsequently paid the CC bill from Chase account?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4987 on: July 29, 2014, 02:12:39 PM »
Nice! Did you try to fight it a year ago?
Yes and they wouldn't talk to me.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4988 on: July 29, 2014, 02:25:28 PM »
Elaborate, please.

You did AP, transferred to Chase, and then subsequently paid the CC bill from Chase account?
no, only returned payment

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4989 on: July 31, 2014, 12:05:13 AM »
she-ecḥeyanu ve'qi'eh'manu......

I received an A/A in June 2011 and finally after 3 years and 1 month of repeated denials to open new cards, I was finally approved for a Sapphire.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4990 on: July 31, 2014, 12:14:01 AM »
Good luck!!!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4991 on: July 31, 2014, 12:15:26 AM »

Was A/A about a year ago and was just approved for a sapphire preferred (20k limit) and a ink bold (5k limit). Lets see if it works/
Are your cards still alive?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4992 on: July 31, 2014, 03:29:10 AM »
she-ecḥeyanu ve'qi'eh'manu......

I received an A/A in June 2011 and finally after 3 years and 1 month of repeated denials to open new cards, I was finally approved for a Sapphire.



Was it instant approval? I'm coming up on my 3 year anniversary, maybe 3 years is the magic number?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4994 on: July 31, 2014, 12:44:51 PM »
I dont have an old cardmember agreement, but when reading the new sapphire program agreement, it looks to me that they are going to actively attack churning:
https://www.chase.com/ccpmweb/shared/document/sapphire_preferred_english_programrules.pdf
"Your points don’t expire as long as your account is open,
however, you’ll lose all your points if:

we believe that you’ve misused the program in any way,
for example:
- by buying or selling points
- by moving or transferring points with or to an
ineligible third party or account
- by repeatedly opening or otherwise maintaining
credit card accounts for the sole purpose of
generating rewards"

is this new?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4995 on: July 31, 2014, 07:16:28 PM »
Are your cards still alive?
Did not receive them yet.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4996 on: July 31, 2014, 09:20:15 PM »
Was it instant approval? I'm coming up on my 3 year anniversary, maybe 3 years is the magic number?
Yes, got instant approval
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4997 on: August 01, 2014, 03:45:03 PM »
I applied for 2 Southwest Bus cards 2 diff bus w/ seperate Tax id's.
Got accepted for 1 AFTER asking for business documentation (business license, proof of tax id, etc.) - never asked before.
Called on second app which was denied.
Guy was very aggressive. i.e. "I see you have opened OR are auth user on 12 cards opened over past 2 years. Can you explain why you need another card"
I explained this is first app with this bus. w/ diff tax id.
He said "ok, on the other Southwest you just opened with other business, can you explain while your only charge so far is $1000 to AP - how is that a business related expense?"
I gave him a bad answer (couldn't think quick enough) and he denied my recon.
I hope he doesn't turn around and adversely affect my accepted SW card or any of my others, based on my recon call for a denied card.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4998 on: August 01, 2014, 06:50:36 PM »
I remember reading that if you return something on your CC and you are left with a credit you're not suppose to have the credit deposited directly into your account, rather they should mail you a check since it's a A/A risk. 

Anyone heard of this.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4999 on: August 01, 2014, 07:00:06 PM »
Dunno if it helps your scenario, but I just had that, and SM'd to just move the negative balance to another cc that I had to pay off anyway.