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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699178 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5000 on: August 03, 2014, 06:01:28 PM »
Yes, got instant approval
Please keep us posted if there are any developments.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5001 on: August 03, 2014, 09:28:11 PM »
my friend (a cpc) just got a letter from chase that they are closing all his bank accounts in 3 weeks  :'( :'(

the only thing he did different from he did the past few years
is that he wired to his partner in a different local bank money every few days in the past few weeks in total about 500k still has a nice amount in his own accounts.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5002 on: August 03, 2014, 09:35:26 PM »
my friend (a cpc) just got a letter from chase that they are closing all his bank accounts in 3 weeks  :'( :'(

the only thing he did different from he did the past few years
is that he wired to his partner in a different local bank money every few days in the past few weeks in total about 500k still has a nice amount in his own accounts.

Did all the money come from his account originally, or was the money just recently placed in his account?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5003 on: August 03, 2014, 09:43:35 PM »
Did all the money come from his account originally, or was the money just recently placed in his account?
not sure but i know he always had big money in his accounts

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5004 on: August 03, 2014, 09:51:06 PM »
my friend (a cpc) just got a letter from chase that they are closing all his bank accounts in 3 weeks  :'( :'(

the only thing he did different from he did the past few years
is that he wired to his partner in a different local bank money every few days in the past few weeks in total about 500k still has a nice amount in his own accounts.
500k is a large amount you know. ...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5005 on: August 03, 2014, 09:59:35 PM »
Just a reminder:  FDIC coverage is up to $250,000.
Someone who continually has more than that in one account is either totally ignorant or may be up to something.


And someone doing a series of wires instead of one large one, also invites questions.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5006 on: August 03, 2014, 10:08:16 PM »
my friend (a cpc) just got a letter from chase that they are closing all his bank accounts in 3 weeks  :'( :'(

the only thing he did different from he did the past few years
is that he wired to his partner in a different local bank money every few days in the past few weeks in total about 500k still has a nice amount in his own accounts.
and he did deposit new money before wiring out that's why he didn't wire it all at once   

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5007 on: August 04, 2014, 10:31:45 AM »

my friend (a cpc) just got a letter from chase that they are closing all his bank accounts in 3 weeks  :'( :'(

the only thing he did different from he did the past few years
is that he wired to his partner in a different local bank money every few days in the past few weeks in total about 500k still has a nice amount in his own accounts.
By 'cpc' you meant chase private client?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5008 on: August 04, 2014, 10:43:53 AM »

Just a reminder:  FDIC coverage is up to $250,000.
Someone who continually has more than that in one account is either totally ignorant or may be up to something.
I'm not sure who's ignorant and up to something...
Not wanting to have lots of $250k accounts due to being blessed with a big fortune and instead putting it in a big safe bank isn't ignorant IMHO (last time I checked FDIC doesn't cover bedroom mattresses anyway)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5009 on: August 04, 2014, 12:07:04 PM »
I'm not sure who's ignorant and up to something...
Not wanting to have lots of $250k accounts due to being blessed with a big fortune and instead putting it in a big safe bank isn't ignorant IMHO (last time I checked FDIC doesn't cover bedroom mattresses anyway)
Different accounts.  Investment accounts.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5010 on: August 05, 2014, 05:37:08 PM »
Did not receive them yet.

Just received the card but got a letter at the same time notifying me that the card had been closed :( I'm still on the black list.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5011 on: August 05, 2014, 05:50:45 PM »
Just received the card but got a letter at the same time notifying me that the card had been closed :( I'm still on the black list.
:'( :'( :'(

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5012 on: August 05, 2014, 05:55:40 PM »
Just received the card but got a letter at the same time notifying me that the card had been closed :( I'm still on the black list.

Sorry to hear that. what did you do to get shutdown again?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5013 on: August 05, 2014, 06:12:40 PM »

Sorry to hear that. what did you do to get shutdown again?
Nothing?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5014 on: August 05, 2014, 06:17:13 PM »
Nothing?

Not buying it.

It's always something.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5015 on: August 05, 2014, 06:19:13 PM »
Sorry to hear that. what did you do to get shutdown again?

Just read unthread - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11216.msg875742#msg875742

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« Reply #5016 on: August 05, 2014, 06:23:47 PM »
Not buying it.

It's always something.
He didn't do something "again" it's still the same offense

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5017 on: August 05, 2014, 06:24:22 PM »
He didn't do something "again" it's still the same offense

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5018 on: August 05, 2014, 06:30:02 PM »
I was planning on giving it a shot, now I'm second guessing if I should bother...
I was AA'd in December for 'having too much credit' available to me

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5019 on: August 05, 2014, 07:13:42 PM »
using serve 200 a day as only spend on card to meet threshold  is ok?