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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5280 on: November 28, 2014, 01:07:56 PM »
Typical A/A talk "too much credit", I was guilty at the time of closure on 90% of the triggers.
Your situation is then different. The ones I am talking about were closed for so called abuse. You should be in the clear.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5281 on: November 28, 2014, 01:08:32 PM »

IIRC they were pre-approval offers and instant approvals. They were also for different cards.
There you go... I don't know (or I don't wanna know...) of anybody approved after being denied, being shut down after time.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5282 on: November 28, 2014, 01:11:26 PM »

I wonder what the percentage of DDF'ers are knocked out of chase, someone should post a poll
Don't know the answer to that,
But I think I'm the 3rd success story in this thread, and first success story coming back under a year. CMIIW.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5283 on: November 28, 2014, 01:19:25 PM »
But I think I'm the 3rd success story in this thread, and first success story coming back under a year. CMIIW.
I am right around a year. Not sure of the exact date last year. Hard to keep track of all the shutdowns.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5284 on: November 28, 2014, 01:24:13 PM »

I am right around a year. Not sure of the exact date last year. Hard to keep track of all the shutdowns.  :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5285 on: November 28, 2014, 01:24:54 PM »
I am right around a year. Not sure of the exact date last year. Hard to keep track of all the shutdowns.  :)
Not sure if that should be a  :) or a  :'(

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5286 on: November 28, 2014, 01:44:56 PM »
Not sure if that should be a  :) or a  :'(
Could not find you for "no big deal".
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5287 on: December 02, 2014, 10:57:13 AM »
Chase is sending out warning letters warning on detected point abuse, and that it could potentially lead to account closure if the abuse is not stopped.
Looks like they wanna try a more conservative route...
Good days ahead?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5288 on: December 02, 2014, 11:30:13 AM »
Doesn't help some of us :(

......unless the shift toward conservatism applies to renewing relationships with victims of previous A/A hostility.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5289 on: December 03, 2014, 12:48:20 PM »
Chase is sending out warning letters warning on detected point abuse, and that it could potentially lead to account closure if the abuse is not stopped.
Looks like they wanna try a more conservative route...
Good days ahead?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5290 on: December 03, 2014, 12:51:25 PM »

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5291 on: December 03, 2014, 01:00:00 PM »
Was that UR to UR or to mileage ?
UR - UR

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5292 on: December 03, 2014, 01:20:42 PM »

that doc only shows improper transferring of the ur points, but not in the "earning" of them.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5293 on: December 03, 2014, 01:32:09 PM »
that doc only shows improper transferring of the ur points, but not in the "earning" of them.
correct,

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5294 on: December 05, 2014, 12:32:19 PM »

ALERT: A/A Recovery Success Story AHEAD! --

Was A/Aed almost a year ago -- applied last week for the British -- surely enough I was instantly denied -- got the letter confirming my denial due to "Previous unsatisfactory relationship with the bank" -- HUCAed 2-3 times was always blown back in the face with the same cold "there's nothing we can do at this time, your only option is to write to Executive" etc. -- after officially giving up,
A black Friday miracle happened:

Got an email in the morning from British with my Executive Club 4 digit pin.. Which was weird since Chase would only create a FF account if they approve you, and as per my last phone call I was NOT at all approved -- so I called up Chase app Status and there it was... an $11k CL card was there waiting to be announced..
UPDATE:
Wife who was shut down as well when we were A/Aed almost a year ago, was just approved for BA!
She called in not 'knowing' () what the "Previous unsatisfactory relationship with the bank" was, after a ten minute hold, and some brief questions and confirmation that she has NO IDEA why she was shut down in the first place , she was approved for $11k!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5295 on: December 05, 2014, 12:39:30 PM »
UPDATE:
Wife who was shut down as well when we were A/Aed almost a year ago, was just approved for BA!
She called in not 'knowing' () what the "Previous unsatisfactory relationship with the bank" was, after a ten minute hold, and some brief questions and confirmation that she has NO IDEA why she was shut down in the first place , she was approved for $11k!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5296 on: December 05, 2014, 12:51:15 PM »


My gut tells me that [shutdowns and] success stories are under reported in this thread.
This is too easy.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5297 on: December 05, 2014, 12:53:15 PM »
My gut tells me that [shutdowns and] success stories are under reported in this thread.
This is too easy.
Chase has changed their MO lately. You also need to wait a month and see if they don't shut you down.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5298 on: December 06, 2014, 05:40:13 PM »
Approved for a business card with 22k, making my total credit line including with personal cards about 85% of my income. Should I request a reduction?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5299 on: December 06, 2014, 06:00:08 PM »
Chase has changed their MO lately.
High time