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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1161 on: May 08, 2022, 09:21:43 AM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1163 on: May 10, 2022, 07:18:35 PM »
Not sure where this belongs (feel free to suggest another thread), but it’s another European corporate microaggression on the heels of the LH fiasco, posted by Rabbi Tyson Herberger on Facebook:



Norway's largest bank, DNB, has decided to visually cue people to associate Jews with the financial woes currently facing society.

In an article on their website entitled "Fear of inflation, interest rate jumps and stock market falls"*  they have decided to use a photo they title as "Inflation" and then (presumably accurately) caption as: "A hassidic Jew in the Williamsburg area of Brooklyn shops for food for Pesach."**

But Jews, Chassidic Jews, Pesach, other religious holidays, Williamsburg, nor even food prices, are not mentioned even once in the article beyond the photo. There is ZERO need to have this particular image - nor any image of Jews - to illustrate this story.

In addition to the antisemitic tropes of Jews and finance, there is the issue of consistently using chassidic men as representatives of Jews/Judaisms and how that pushes certain constructs of Jewishness over others. 

But the biggest issue here is not only the ignorance towards  antisemitic accusations of a Jewish cabal controlling global finance and associating Jews with financial difficulties experienced by others; but even the implicit promotion of such views by the use of this photo to illustrate a story that has absolutely no written text connecting it to a chassidic Jews shopping for his Pesach groceries.

I call on DNB to both change the photo and issue an apology. As a rabbi and an academic in religious studies who has lead diversity trainings before, I am happy to arrange or lead a seminar or discussion for DNB [or others] on antisemitism, stereotyping Jews, and the problems of disproportionately using images of visibly orthodox Jews to represent Judaism (if a bank ever needs an image of someone to represent Judaism - which is likely a dubious need).

For the good of the order: the DNB story was posted 2 May, screenshotted by me on 10 May; and I fully understand that the author listed (Ingvild Borgen Gjerde) may or may not have had anything to do with the photo selection, and that the photographer and photo agency (NTB - Norsk Telegrambyrå) undoubtedly had no idea or intention that their image would be used in this way.

* = Translation is my own, in Norwegian the article is titled: "Inflasjonsfrykt, rentehopp og børsfall"

** = In the original: "INFLASJON: En hasidisk jøde i Williamsburg-delen av Brooklyn handler mat til jødisk påske."

Here’s a link to the original DNB blog post in Norwegian:
https://www.dnb.no/dnbnyheter/no/bors-og-marked/inflasjonsfrykt--rentehopp-og-borsfall
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1164 on: May 11, 2022, 02:59:24 AM »
Not sure where this belongs (feel free to suggest another thread), but it’s another European corporate microaggression on the heels of the LH fiasco, posted by Rabbi Tyson Herberger on Facebook:



Here’s a link to the original DNB blog post in Norwegian:
https://www.dnb.no/dnbnyheter/no/bors-og-marked/inflasjonsfrykt--rentehopp-og-borsfall

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1165 on: May 11, 2022, 04:25:38 AM »
Not sure where this belongs (feel free to suggest another thread), but it’s another European corporate microaggression on the heels of the LH fiasco, posted by Rabbi Tyson Herberger on Facebook:



Here’s a link to the original DNB blog post in Norwegian:
https://www.dnb.no/dnbnyheter/no/bors-og-marked/inflasjonsfrykt--rentehopp-og-borsfall
Israeli media does this with charedim a lot. During covid it was incredibly incendiary.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1166 on: May 11, 2022, 06:13:21 AM »
Fixed

They changed the caption, but not the picture. Why would a Norwegian bank writing to a Norwegian audience about inflation use a picture of an Orthodox Jew shopping in Brooklyn? It sends the wrong message, regardless of what the caption reads.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1167 on: May 11, 2022, 07:14:07 AM »
They changed the caption, but not the picture. Why would a Norwegian bank writing to a Norwegian audience about inflation use a picture of an Orthodox Jew shopping in Brooklyn? It sends the wrong message, regardless of what the caption reads.
Picture is changed, too. Probably an aggressive caching issue for you.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1168 on: May 11, 2022, 07:18:49 AM »
Picture is changed, too. Probably an aggressive caching issue for you.

I guess it’s possible when I initially saw the change it was a caching issue.

That’s good, then the pressure accomplished its purpose. Probably some poor intern inadvertently chose the image, with so few Jews in Norway, they might simply lack the cultural sensitivity to the messaging such an image sends.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1169 on: May 12, 2022, 08:28:52 AM »
Isn't it strange how only Arabs are ever "slain"? Jews can "die", but they are never "slain."

Palestinians mourn slain Al Jazeera journalist, blame Israel

Imagine taking this piece and replacing it names after a Jew gets killed? You would never, ever see such a piece. Such disgusting bias.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1170 on: May 12, 2022, 09:10:19 AM »
Isn't it strange how only Arabs are ever "slain"? Jews can "die", but they are never "slain."

Palestinians mourn slain Al Jazeera journalist, blame Israel

Imagine taking this piece and replacing it names after a Jew gets killed? You would never, ever see such a piece. Such disgusting bias.

The irony is that the journalist died in crossfire but wasn’t intentionally slain, and with terror victims it’s the opposite, they’re intentionally slain R”L.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1173 on: May 16, 2022, 04:32:38 PM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1174 on: May 19, 2022, 02:05:28 PM »
Days since I’ve been called a kike and spat on by a neighbor for being Jewish: 1
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1175 on: May 19, 2022, 02:32:56 PM »
Days since I’ve been called a kike and spat on by a neighbor for being Jewish: 1
Can I send you Chris Smith's contact info?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1176 on: May 19, 2022, 02:38:50 PM »
Days since I’ve been called a kike and spat on by a neighbor for being Jewish: 1
Your response ?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1177 on: May 19, 2022, 02:52:23 PM »
Can I send you Chris Smith's contact info?
Why would you get Chris smith involved? The police do good enough of a job.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1178 on: May 19, 2022, 03:00:44 PM »
If at all possible, this kind of response is more impactful to verbal antisemitism. If the person is being violent (I'd included spitting), that's a bit different

https://twitter.com/BluegrassRabbi/status/1523139739871756289


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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1179 on: May 19, 2022, 03:13:44 PM »
If at all possible, this kind of response is more impactful to verbal antisemitism. If the person is being violent (I'd included spitting), that's a bit different

https://twitter.com/BluegrassRabbi/status/1523139739871756289
This might help for an ignoramus, not if he’s full of hate.