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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1200 on: May 20, 2022, 11:23:35 AM »
משום ברתיה קנסינן ליה לדידיה אמר אביי אין כדאמרי אינשי שותא דינוקא בשוקא או דאבוה או דאימיה
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1201 on: May 20, 2022, 11:31:57 AM »
The lady who brought the brownies is the same one who called the cops?
Yes. She apologized for her own behavior as well as her son’s. We hadn’t really met before as she’s not usually around.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1202 on: May 20, 2022, 11:52:30 AM »
משום ברתיה קנסינן ליה לדידיה אמר אביי אין כדאמרי אינשי שותא דינוקא בשוקא או דאבוה או דאימיה
Many (most?) teenagers are raised by the internet today.

(Parents are responsible for that part, but entirely possible the hate wasn't learned at home.)

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1203 on: May 20, 2022, 12:06:33 PM »
Many (most?) teenagers are raised by the internet today.

(Parents are responsible for that part, but entirely possible the hate wasn't learned at home.)

As you can so clearly see here from the mother's behavior ::)
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1204 on: May 20, 2022, 12:07:26 PM »
Many (most?) teenagers are raised by the internet today.

(Parents are responsible for that part, but entirely possible the hate wasn't learned at home.)

Judging by the story, that would not be the case in this particular instance.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1205 on: May 20, 2022, 12:23:45 PM »
(Parents are responsible for that part, but entirely possible the hate wasn't learned at home.)
You can be sure she’s cursing Jews out at home. She’s smart enough to contain it when in public.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1206 on: May 20, 2022, 01:02:59 PM »
You can be sure she’s cursing Jews out at home. She’s smart enough to contain it when in public.
There’s no doubt that he’s hearing from his parents. His father has been known to plow through Jewish school-bus stop signs on our corner as well.

With all that said, I still think we had a productive conversation and I plan to talk to the son as well. I’m not sure how easy it will be do undo years of hate and indoctrination but if I can help nudge him and his mother to a more neutral stance, and learn something myself in the process, I think it’ll be well worth my time.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1207 on: May 20, 2022, 01:21:30 PM »


His father has been known to plow through Jewish school-bus stop signs on our corner as well.

This is something that the bus company or driver should be encouraged to report. Don't play nice with safety.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1208 on: May 20, 2022, 01:49:27 PM »
There’s no doubt that he’s hearing from his parents. His father has been known to plow through Jewish school-bus stop signs on our corner as well.

With all that said, I still think we had a productive conversation and I plan to talk to the son as well. I’m not sure how easy it will be do undo years of hate and indoctrination but if I can help nudge him and his mother to a more neutral stance, and learn something myself in the process, I think it’ll be well worth my time.
Honestly surprised they still live there. How long have frum yidden been in that particular neighborhood?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1209 on: May 20, 2022, 02:20:47 PM »
This is something that the bus company or driver should be encouraged to report. Don't play nice with safety.
Agreed, perhaps it has been. I personally haven’t witnessed it but a neighbor said he saw it twice.
Honestly surprised they still live there. How long have frum yidden been in that particular neighborhood?
They’re only here for 13 years, and I had a friend living in this neighborhood 6 years ago. They’re actually on one of the most frum blocks in the neighborhood- all of their immediate neighbors are frum. I’ll leave it up to you to decide if that’s irony or the opposite.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1210 on: May 20, 2022, 02:24:10 PM »


Agreed, perhaps it has been. I personally haven’t witnessed it but a neighbor said he saw it twice.
I would very specifically have it be the bus side doing it.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1213 on: May 21, 2022, 09:54:50 PM »
Does this count?


According to Israeli reporter Moshe Weisberg Rabbi Shmuel Yosef Shur, the son of Rabbi Avraham Shur from Brooklyn, was seriously injured after being cruelly beaten by Gur Chasdidm on Shabbat and suffered severe cerebral hemorrhage.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1214 on: May 21, 2022, 10:46:16 PM »
No, and it's highly inappropriate to imply it does. I have no idea the background and reason for the attack, but as horrific as it is for Jews to be fighting, lumping it here gives it the veneer of saying we deserve it from others because we do it to ourselves.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
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