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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1480 on: December 15, 2022, 01:23:03 PM »
But but Queen Hochul made it very clear, during elections, that dangerous people & people that are a real threat to society will not be released.
Clearly, this anti-Zionist is safe for society.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1481 on: December 31, 2022, 10:27:49 PM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1482 on: January 09, 2023, 09:26:39 PM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1483 on: January 09, 2023, 10:11:58 PM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1484 on: January 09, 2023, 11:03:23 PM »

It might have been a legit attack (I’m not sure what the perpetrator did was technically criminal), it and might still be true that Rabbi Shmully escalated it.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1485 on: January 09, 2023, 11:20:15 PM »
It might have been a legit attack (I’m not sure what the perpetrator did was technically criminal), it and might still be true that Rabbi Shmully escalated it.
True, but still disgusting of the interviewer to ask that. Was he expected to sit still? Would anyone expect that of any other minority?
https://crownheights.info/crime/805497/shocking-friday-hit-and-run-in-crown-heights-being-investigated-as-a-bias-crime/

Hit and run? The driver intentionally tried to mow the guy down.
That is plain attempted murder, no hit and run.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1486 on: January 10, 2023, 12:35:09 AM »
True, but still disgusting of the interviewer to ask that. Was he expected to sit still? Would anyone expect that of any other minority?

If it was actually a criminal attack, he should called law enforcement and reported it, and told hotel security. Starting to record and provoking your attacker further makes it seem like he’s trying to make it more than it was.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1487 on: January 10, 2023, 09:29:39 AM »
If it was actually a criminal attack, he should called law enforcement and reported it, and told hotel security. Starting to record and provoking your attacker further makes it seem like he’s trying to make it more than it was.
He did both.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1488 on: January 10, 2023, 09:38:26 AM »
Here is the other part. He does make a lot of claims.
https://twitter.com/RabbiShmuley/status/1612576640277569539
Is saying "free Palestini" antisemitic?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1489 on: January 10, 2023, 09:59:16 AM »
Is saying "free Palestini" antisemitic?

To a random person in Miami with the only reason being they are Jewish? Yes. ETA: like saying to a random Latino looking person "Go back to Mexico," etc.

I'm not going to watch any more than I already did, and I'm not going to waste time commenting on his particular story, because his shtick is creating drama, so I have no doubt that's a large part of any story involving him.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1490 on: January 10, 2023, 10:20:11 AM »
To a random person in Miami with the only reason being they are Jewish? Yes. ETA: like saying to a random Latino looking person "Go back to Mexico," etc.

I'm not going to watch any more than I already did, and I'm not going to waste time commenting on his particular story, because his shtick is creating drama, so I have no doubt that's a large part of any story involving him.
Agreed to both parts. Posted it because the first part is a point that people fail to realize.

Ironically, in the past it was "Go to Palestine", and now it's "Get out of Palestine".

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1491 on: January 10, 2023, 10:20:45 AM »
ETA: like saying to a random Latino looking person "Go back to Mexico," etc.
Way off base.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1492 on: January 10, 2023, 10:40:05 AM »
Way off base.
What is off base? They chose someone based on their looks and spewed a political ideology to that person based on that look.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1493 on: January 10, 2023, 10:41:52 AM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1494 on: January 10, 2023, 10:43:48 AM »
Way off base.
"go back to Lancaster"

better?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1495 on: January 10, 2023, 10:45:53 AM »
What is off base? They chose someone based on their looks and spewed a political ideology to that person based on that look.
How so?
The difference is who is saying it.
Oppressed to oppressor or oppressor to the oppressed.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1496 on: January 10, 2023, 10:48:51 AM »
"go back to Lancaster"

better?
Free Mandela
See the difference?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1497 on: January 10, 2023, 10:56:41 AM »
The difference is who is saying it.
Oppressed to oppressor or oppressor to the oppressed.

Who is oppressed who is the oppressor in this scenario? Please spell out clearly what the difference is.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1498 on: January 10, 2023, 11:04:31 AM »
Who is oppressed who is the oppressor in this scenario? Please spell out clearly what the difference is.
Saying free Palestine to a Jewish person. Jewish person (Israel) would be the oppressor.
Saying go back to Mexico. I would be the oppressor.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1499 on: January 10, 2023, 11:17:54 AM »
Saying free Palestine to a Jewish person. Jewish person (Israel) would be the oppressor.
Saying go back to Mexico. I would be the oppressor.

Even if I grant you that Israel is oppressing Palestinians, how is a random Jew in Miami responsible for that? That's the whole point, blaming random Jews for the actions of a country thousands of miles away just by virtue of them having the same religion *is racist*.

If a black person went over to a white person in Miami in the '80s and screamed, "Free Mandela", that would be racist.
If a Jewish person goes over to a Muslim-looking person in San Diego and tells him to stop bombing buses in Jerusalem, that's racist.
If a white person goes over to a random black guy in Israel and tells him to stop the gang killings in Chicago, that's racist.