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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #220 on: December 30, 2019, 11:05:59 PM »
Ladies and gentlemen, a citywide elected official in NYC.

https://twitter.com/JumaaneWilliams/status/1211846747028381696?s=19
It isn't even Dec 31 yet???

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #221 on: December 30, 2019, 11:07:22 PM »
No, because Americans value their freedom. We realize that the gun control crowd doesn't want common sense laws of which there are many. It's a constant ploy to eventually disarm the poppulation.

That's why, I and Florida residents, oppose any form of gun registration.

In other news, Jew gets hit with a chair on the head in crown heights.

Jew is harrased on subway etc..

Yeah, gun control is what we need.. 🙄
I started a separate thread for you to spew your stupidity so please use it.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #222 on: December 30, 2019, 11:12:58 PM »
No, because Americans value their freedom. We realize that the gun control crowd doesn't want common sense laws of which there are many. It's a constant ploy to eventually disarm the poppulation.

That's why, I and Florida residents, oppose any form of gun registration.

In other news, Jew gets hit with a chair on the head in crown heights.

Jew is harrased on subway etc..

Yeah, gun control is what we need.. 🙄
Try to use your gun when any of these incidents occur and you'll be tried and be put in jail for years.. No stand your ground law in NY.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #223 on: December 30, 2019, 11:14:08 PM »
Ladies and gentlemen, a citywide elected official in NYC.

https://twitter.com/JumaaneWilliams/status/1211846747028381696?s=19
Uch.

But it would do people well to remember this tweet the next time they hear/say #AllLivesMatter

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #224 on: December 30, 2019, 11:35:53 PM »
Try to use your gun when any of these incidents occur and you'll be tried and be put in jail for years.. No stand your ground law in NY.

That's why I very rarely visit NY

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #225 on: December 30, 2019, 11:36:45 PM »
I started a separate thread for you to spew your stupidity so please use it.

Nope, I've made the decision not to engage with you further on any topic. Ciao

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #226 on: December 30, 2019, 11:37:56 PM »
That's why I very rarely visit NY
Good thing you stay in FL because we all know there has never been no mass murders in that state.  ::)
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #227 on: December 30, 2019, 11:38:25 PM »
Nope, I've made the decision not to engage with you further on any topic.
Smart decision.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2019, 11:39:55 PM »
Smart decision.
I gotta bookmark this post. I can imagine it being very useful if taken out of context properly. :)

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #229 on: December 31, 2019, 01:41:08 AM »
It's a lot of factors.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/28/suspects-released-without-bail-after-shocking-attacks-on-jews/

Including various judicial reform programs.

People get away with assault, and there's no dererance
Arrested the very next day for another assault & walks free again. Insane!!!

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #230 on: December 31, 2019, 01:43:01 AM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #231 on: December 31, 2019, 02:56:32 AM »
All were legally bought in nearby states. Thanks God this guy wasn't that smart.

Oh, news to me. Last I checked, a gun can be legally purchased in all 50 states.

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Not that hard to figure it out yourself, but obviously, don't expect honest arguments on gun control debate.

Yeh I got it. Thanks for the clear example of dishonest debate.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #232 on: December 31, 2019, 07:07:51 AM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #233 on: December 31, 2019, 08:02:19 AM »
Oh, news to me. Last I checked, a gun can be legally purchased in all 50 states.


But there is a big difference in what you need to do before you are able to.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #234 on: December 31, 2019, 08:25:18 AM »
But there is a big difference in what you need to do before you are able to.

Has nothing do with what he said, or what I was addressing.
He’s claiming Texas the guy (most likely) used a gun because guns are legal in Texas, while in NY and other places attackers will use a knife or a gun purchased from another state because it’s not legal.

That’s complete nonsense. Guns can be legally obtained everywhere, guns can be illegally obtained everywhere, the method of attack was not caused by local gun laws.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #235 on: December 31, 2019, 08:39:01 AM »
That’s complete nonsense. Guns can be legally obtained everywhere, guns can be illegally obtained everywhere, the method of attack was not caused by local gun laws.
You have no way of knowing that. Common sense tells us making something harder to get will deter some. Did it deter this guy? I have no way of knowing and neither does anyone else.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #236 on: December 31, 2019, 08:48:41 AM »
You have no way of knowing that. Common sense tells us making something harder to get will deter some. Did it deter this guy? I have no way of knowing and neither does anyone else.

The animal was previously arrested 7 times, and the Times also reports that “in 2018, Thomas was charged with fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon”. I have little to no doubt that he was very capable of getting a gun if he had the desire to.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #237 on: December 31, 2019, 08:55:46 AM »
The animal was previously arrested 7 times, and the Times also reports that “in 2018, Thomas was charged with fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon”. I have little to no doubt that he was very capable of getting a gun if he had the desire to.
You need to look past any individual incident and look at them collectively. For something to have a chance to work it has to applied in all situations.

I think we can both agree for the most part these criminals are stupid. If they were smart (not sure what word to use) more would have been killed in all these tragedies. Just look at LAS.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #238 on: December 31, 2019, 09:11:05 AM »
You need to look past any individual incident and look at them collectively. For something to have a chance to work it has to applied in all situations.

I think we can both agree for the most part these criminals are stupid. If they were smart (not sure what word to use) more would have been killed in all these tragedies. Just look at LAS.

I was addressing a post that was discussing individual incidents.
Looking at it collectively - I don’t think the gun laws in any state would influence if a gun would be used in a premeditated killing spree, which all the recent incidents were. I can see how they can influence non-premeditated murders though.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #239 on: December 31, 2019, 09:23:04 AM »
So it's a justification? [ducks]

Rabbi Miller never published the book.  IIRC the intro says something along the lines that he felt it inappropriate to publish it when there were still so many survivors alive.