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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #820 on: February 02, 2022, 09:50:21 PM »
This confusion is why IMHO she should be cut some slack. Let's remember her real name is not Glodberg, that is a name she chose.

I believe her apology was sincere. She is not a "H" denier. She has learned from this and hopefully others have also.

Now you all need to be on the same page. This can't be a situation where there are three answers to the same question.

Suspending her is the network giving themselves two weeks for the story to blow over. She's not an antisemite, she's not a Holocaust denier. She just needs to be educated, along with her viewers. Instead of suspending her, she could have done some public learning. Punishing her doesn't help anyone.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #821 on: February 02, 2022, 09:55:39 PM »
Honestly, I don't think the Jews can answer it. Buy I don't think it matters.
It does matter. She acknowledges what happen. She is not a denier.
In her culture racism is one color against another. I will admit that is how I look at it also. That is why I make a distinction between anti-semitism and racism. Am I wrong or being ignorant?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #822 on: February 02, 2022, 10:10:23 PM »
It does matter. She acknowledges what happen. She is not a denier.
In her culture racism is one color against another. I will admit that is how I look at it also. That is why I make a distinction between anti-semitism and racism. Am I wrong or being ignorant?

Did you read the rest of the post?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #823 on: February 02, 2022, 10:22:51 PM »
Did you read the rest of the post?
Yes but I quoted the part I take issue with.

Bottom line is IMHO she should not have been suspended. This is cancel culture again. This is a great teaching opportunity that she should be part of.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #824 on: February 02, 2022, 10:23:49 PM »
Let's remember her real name is not Glodberg, that is a name she chose.

1 - She has (in my view falsely) claimed to be Jewish in the past.
2 - The fact that she chose that stage name, apparently because she believed that having a Jewish name would make her more successful in showbiz, is a strike against her.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #825 on: February 02, 2022, 10:24:45 PM »
2 - The fact that she chose that stage name, apparently because she believed that having a Jewish name would make her more successful in showbiz, is a strike against her.
Ouch, now that is a new twist.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #826 on: February 02, 2022, 10:29:31 PM »
This is cancel culture again.

Agree. The question is if those fighting against cancel culture have already lost, and should just accept that it's part of our world, and learn to live with it.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #827 on: February 02, 2022, 10:30:54 PM »
Ouch, now that is a new twist.

Not new, and not a twist.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #828 on: February 02, 2022, 10:35:55 PM »
1 - She has (in my view falsely) claimed to be Jewish in the past.
2 - The fact that she chose that stage name, apparently because she believed that having a Jewish name would make her more successful in showbiz, is a strike against her.
According to Wikipedia it was her mother that effected that name.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #829 on: February 02, 2022, 10:36:41 PM »
Not new, and not a twist.
Guess I need to get out more or is this only in Jewish circles?
First thing that came up with Google: https://www.thelist.com/422334/the-real-reason-whoopi-goldberg-changed-her-name/
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #830 on: February 02, 2022, 10:54:50 PM »
Guess I need to get out more or is this only in Jewish circles?
First thing that came up with Google: https://www.thelist.com/422334/the-real-reason-whoopi-goldberg-changed-her-name/

From that article:

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It's been rumored that her mother thought the name Johnson wasn't "Jewish enough" for Goldberg to make it big, but that's not been confirmed.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #831 on: February 02, 2022, 10:59:33 PM »
From that article:
Correct, mother and not confirmed.
Is Whoopi a common Jewish name?  :)
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #832 on: February 02, 2022, 11:07:15 PM »
Correct, mother and not confirmed.
Is Whoopi a common Jewish name?  :)

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that she definitely changed her name to sound more Jewish, just that those rumors aren't a new twist. The theory has been around for years.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #833 on: February 02, 2022, 11:14:41 PM »
mother

I stand corrected. It's a strike against her mother.

not confirmed.

Which is why I said "apparently"

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #834 on: February 02, 2022, 11:19:38 PM »
I stand corrected. It's a strike against her mother.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #835 on: February 02, 2022, 11:27:59 PM »



Bottom line is IMHO she should not have been suspended. This is cancel culture again. This is a great teaching opportunity that she should be part of.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #836 on: February 02, 2022, 11:30:06 PM »

So the little weasel wants her fired instead of a teaching opportunity. We see his priorities.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #837 on: February 02, 2022, 11:33:14 PM »
So the little weasel wants her fired instead of a teaching opportunity. We see his priorities.

I don’t think her opinions would change either way, so even a suspension was overkill

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #838 on: February 02, 2022, 11:52:24 PM »
So the little weasel wants her fired instead of a teaching opportunity. We see his priorities.
Yes, the left created that rule, they should follow their own rules

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #839 on: February 03, 2022, 12:06:34 AM »
So the little weasel wants her fired instead of a teaching opportunity. We see his priorities.
Applying the MAD theory here to end the cancel culture madness is actually a great line, and that's the point here.