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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #80 on: December 29, 2019, 02:47:13 PM »
Who called it domestic terrorism? The Governor. Not the media.
Correct, the Governor. That is the medias job to report the news not create it. That is whole another PC subject.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #81 on: December 29, 2019, 02:47:42 PM »
Didn't see a question but will gladly answer if I can. What is the question.
Answer to yourself why no such reporter exists at *any* mainstream or left of center news organizations, when do they do exist for all other forms of racism.

Ask yourself how you had no idea that people you interact with here on a daily basis had to hide in their basements as violent mobs broke their windows and screamed "kill all the Jews", and while the mayor of New York ordered police to stand down and "let them vent".

Ask yourself why one of the people who incited those riots was invited to the white house dozens upon dozens of times, has his own show on a major network, is a "consultant" to numerous political campaigns and is a senior advisor to the mayor of NY.

Ask yourself why Giuliani saying idiotic things got more coverage than Jews killed in a domestic terrorism attack.

Ask yourself why a presidential candidate endorsed a foreign candidate who 87% of Jews in his country felt was anti-Semitic without even one reporter asking him about it.

I can go on, but my point is there has been a pattern going on for decades, with a stark increase in recent months, and pointing to mainstream media calling one or two singular incidents has hate crimes or terrorism doesn't answer how its been ignored until now.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #82 on: December 29, 2019, 03:08:55 PM »
That attacks in Jews are not taken as seriously as attacks on other minorities.
It has 2 parts. One is who they are against and the other is who perpetrated the attacks. As soon as there is an attack by a white supremacist it moves right over to the ideology and rightfully so. It doesn't do the same when it is the other way around, in fact some still blame it on whoits supremacists!
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #83 on: December 29, 2019, 03:27:50 PM »
@jj1000 @Dan

For a while already I noticed the Waxman Chabad Cen-er had radio-ed up security.

What exactly is thier system?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #84 on: December 29, 2019, 03:30:18 PM »


Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #85 on: December 29, 2019, 03:39:17 PM »
Starting to understand more and more why Jews in Germany/Poland/Austria never actually tried leaving. People have always questioned their actions, but based on the past year and the amount of attacks on Jews and the lack of any bump of Aliya shows we just sadly dont learn the lessons of the past.
Only benefit of living there in this regard, is the fact that you don't get as shocked as we in the US do when something like this happens.. r"l, sad!
Never comprehended the stupidity of promoting for an Aliya when someone in CH/BP/Williamsburg get his hat knocked off, when in the same day 3 people were shot or stabbed at a bus stop in Gush Etzion.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #86 on: December 29, 2019, 03:42:24 PM »
Aliyah aside, do people feel the cycle of galus as described by the Meshech Chochmah coming to life? And what should our response be? Nothing?!

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #87 on: December 29, 2019, 03:47:33 PM »
Aliyah aside, do people feel the cycle of galus as described by the Meshech Chochmah coming to life? And what should our response be? Nothing?!
So true.
But what are you referring to what our response should be? what is he recommending, a gun or peeper spray? ???

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #88 on: December 29, 2019, 03:52:50 PM »
Only benefit of living there in this regard, is the fact that you don't get as shocked as we in the US do when something like this happens.. r"l, sad!
Never comprehended the stupidity of promoting for an Aliya when someone in CH/BP/Williamsburg get his hat knocked off, when in the same day 3 people were shot or stabbed at a bus stop in Gush Etzion.

Gush Etzion is not exactly representative of the remainder of the country.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #90 on: December 29, 2019, 04:12:46 PM »
Aliyah aside, do people feel the cycle of galus as described by the Meshech Chochmah coming to life? And what should our response be? Nothing?!
So true.
But what are you referring to what our response should be? what is he recommending, a gun or peeper spray? ???
Probably more like being מחזק in something ( 'צפיה לישועה וכו)
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2019, 05:41:05 PM »
So true.
But what are you referring to what our response should be? what is he recommending, a gun or peeper spray? ???
Almost certainly not that. The Midrash and meforshim are very clear on what the response to the hatred of Eisav should be.(Look at the Midrash on pnu lachem tzafona in Devarim.)

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #92 on: December 29, 2019, 07:08:11 PM »
Stop saying not to get a gun unless properly trained then start wondering when the programs will start.

Yes go get training, but buy a damn gun.

If God forbid I was attacked, id defend myself with a gun .

I feel very safe

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #93 on: December 29, 2019, 07:09:41 PM »
Stop saying not to get a gun unless properly trained then start wondering when the programs will start.

Yes go get training, but buy a damn gun.

If God forbid I was attacked, id defend myself with a gun .

I feel very safe
Thank G-d this guy didn't have a gun.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2019, 07:15:25 PM »
Thank G-d this guy didn't have a gun.

This type of mindset is how Innocents get killed.

Maybe be thankful the Jews in Europe didn't have guns, God forbid they might have shot the Nazi's.

Exactly the fact that one guy with a knife can go and stab in many cases kill many people.

That shows how lopsided the logic is.

You have absolutely no solution. Are you going to stop all the mass brain washing of the masses and the hate?

When you going to assign an armed security guard to every single Jew?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2019, 07:19:47 PM »
This type of mindset is how Innocents get killed.

Maybe be thankful the Jews in Europe didn't have guns, God forbid they might have shot the Nazi's.

Exactly the fact that one guy with a knife can go and stab in many cases kill many people.

That shows how lopsided the logic is.

You have absolutely no solution. Are you going to stop all the mass brain washing of the masses and the hate?

When you going to assign an armed security guard to every single Jew?
Your logic is more guns are the answer. The more guns there are the more guns will get into the hands of criminals. We will never come out ahead in that situation because we value life and they don't.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2019, 07:26:18 PM »
Your logic is more guns are the answer. The more guns there are the more guns will get into the hands of criminals. We will never come out ahead in that situation because we value life and they don't.
Criminals will get the guns no matter what, only question is will we be able to defend ourselves against them

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #98 on: December 29, 2019, 07:30:18 PM »
Criminals will get the guns no matter what, only question is will we be able to defend ourselves against them
If you accept the fact that criminals will always be able to get guns then there is nothing you can do. If a criminal wants to kill you no matter how many guns you own won't matter.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #99 on: December 29, 2019, 07:51:21 PM »
Stop saying not to get a gun unless properly trained then start wondering when the programs will start.

Yes go get training, but buy a damn gun.

If God forbid I was attacked, id defend myself with a gun .

I feel very safe
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I just spoke to my nephew this evening who is pretty well trained with guns, and isn't confident at all that a gun would help in such a time of need.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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