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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #140 on: December 29, 2019, 10:15:11 PM »
I believe the current attack was stopped without a gun, no?
Ya and what would have happened if the guy had a gun? how many people would have been killed?
What would have happened in the church in texas if there hadn't been a good guy with a gun?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #141 on: December 29, 2019, 10:27:27 PM »
He used a knife. It's sickening how you turn every attack into some play for gun control.
So you bring a gun into this debate and it is my fault. Ok I see how that works.  ::)
ETA: There have been two other recent tragedies and I never mentioned the word "gun" and both involved guns. Maybe take responsibility for injecting it into this discussion?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #142 on: December 29, 2019, 10:28:29 PM »
Invalid argument.
...because it is true?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #143 on: December 29, 2019, 10:29:13 PM »
Ya and what would have happened if the guy had a gun? how many people would have been killed?
What would have happened in the church in texas if there hadn't been a good guy with a gun?
Maybe look at it this way.

A bad guy in Taxes storms a Church with a gun, a good man with a gun stops him. 2 people are killed.
A bad guy in NY storms a shul with a knife, a good man with a table in the hand stops him. No one is killed B"h.

Now maybe you have your answer.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #144 on: December 29, 2019, 10:34:32 PM »
Maybe look at it this way.

A bad guy in Taxes storms a Church with a gun, a good man with a gun stops him. 2 people are killed.
A bad guy in NY storms a shul with a knife, a good man with a table in the hand stops him. No one is killed B"h.

Now maybe you have your answer.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #145 on: December 29, 2019, 10:38:29 PM »
+1000
I think much of this is caused by the media feeding into this! (I was just at the Auschwitz exhibit on Battery Park and I left shaking as the climate today is so similar to that of Europe in the 1930s! It's terrifying)
My Auschwitz survivor grandmother has been saying for months that we are reliving the 30's in Europe. She says we are blind and stupid not to pay attention to the anti-Semitism.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #146 on: December 29, 2019, 10:40:09 PM »
Maybe look at it this way.

A bad guy in NY storms a shul with a knife, a good man with a table in the hand stops him. No one is killed B"h.


Lets try To answer the question this time, what would have happened if the guy had a gun?
Would a table have stopped him?



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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #147 on: December 29, 2019, 10:44:38 PM »

1:11 starts (I believe was NOT a guard as video  says, they have a safety team of volunteer congregants)
Look how beautiful this is, shooting starts shooting ends. (Ideally no one dies, but once we are talking ideal, then no one is attacking us which is clearly not the case)



(Y'all do realize @CountValentine trolls these posts every single time right... )
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #148 on: December 29, 2019, 10:53:29 PM »
Look how beautiful this is,
(Y'all do realize @CountValentine trolls these posts every single time right... )
Look how beautiful this is? What is wrong with you?  ::)
Before you come here with your hit job I already posted this.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #149 on: December 29, 2019, 10:56:20 PM »
Lets try To answer the question this time, what would have happened if the guy had a gun?
Would a table have stopped him?
Ok I'll spoonfeed, There's a reason why the bad guy in Taxes comes with a gun and the bad guy in NY comes with a knife.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #150 on: December 29, 2019, 11:03:16 PM »
My Auschwitz survivor grandmother has been saying for months that we are reliving the 30's in Europe. She says we are blind and stupid not to pay attention to the anti-Semitism.
Anyone comparing the US now to Germany in the 30's either has a political agenda or is completely ignorant of history. I'm not saying that the recent rise in anti-semitism isn't problematic and shouldn't be addressed but fear mongering like this does nobody any good.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #151 on: December 29, 2019, 11:07:00 PM »
Anyone comparing the US now to Germany in the 30's either has a political agenda or is completely ignorant of history. I'm not saying that the recent rise in anti-semitism isn't problematic and shouldn't be addressed but fear mongering like this does nobody any good.
Can you imagine the response if I said that.  :-X
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #152 on: December 29, 2019, 11:08:48 PM »
My Auschwitz survivor grandmother has been saying for months that we are reliving the 30's in Europe. She says we are blind and stupid not to pay attention to the anti-Semitism.
Tell her that unlike in Germany in the 30's, every government official from the president and all the way down, condemned this within hours, so calm her down, it's a big mitzva.
(Yea I know words is not enough we need action)

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #153 on: December 29, 2019, 11:19:43 PM »
Can you imagine the response if I said that.  :-X
Other people's responses are beyond my control.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #154 on: December 29, 2019, 11:32:10 PM »
You're using emotions to deal with harsh realities.

Many of the world's biggest mass killings we're with knife's

The Sagamihara stabbings were committed on 26 July 2016 in Midori Ward, Sagamihara, Kanagawa, Japan. Nineteen people were killed and twenty-six others were injured, thirteen severely, at a care home for disabled people.[1][2] The suspect was a 26-year-old man, identified as Satoshi Uematsu (植松 聖, Uematsu Satoshi), a former employee of the care facility.[3] Uematsu surrendered at a nearby police station with a bag of knives and was subsequently arrested.[4][2][5] The attack was described as one of the worst crimes committed on Japanese soil in modern history.[3]

We need to look at the nature of these attacks, also I see it in different ways. I grew up around survivers. From the age of 7, I resolved to arm myself and my family.

I lost over 100 extended relatives of my grandparents family in ww2.

My grandfather helped orchestrate the D-Day invasion.

My feelings of the need to be armed also reflect my feelings of what I love about America and that includes the Constitution and second amendment.




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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #155 on: December 29, 2019, 11:33:07 PM »
Tell her that unlike in Germany in the 30's, every government official from the president and all the way down, condemned this within hours, so calm her down, it's a big mitzva.
(Yea I know words is not enough we need action)

Or that here we are armed.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #156 on: December 29, 2019, 11:37:33 PM »
Anyone comparing the US now to Germany in the 30's either has a political agenda or is completely ignorant of history. I'm not saying that the recent rise in anti-semitism isn't problematic and shouldn't be addressed but fear mongering like this does nobody any good.

why does this have to be fascist germany to be alarming? Name the last "great" country where jews thrived, where they weren't eventually persecuted?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #157 on: December 29, 2019, 11:47:07 PM »
Watching the local news and a big segment on the attack. Talking about the big rise in hate crimes against Jews. Media is covering these attacks!
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #158 on: December 30, 2019, 12:13:56 AM »
Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #159 on: December 30, 2019, 12:24:24 AM »
why does this have to be fascist germany to be alarming? Name the last "great" country where jews thrived, where they weren't eventually persecuted?
Did you even read the post I was referring to?
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