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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #135 on: December 29, 2019, 09:40:50 PM »
You don't think comments like this feed the frenzy?
Hopefully not here!!!

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #136 on: December 29, 2019, 10:03:03 PM »
The question is how to stop the original attack not how to stop it after the fact.
So you agree that the best way to stop an attack after the fact is with a gun, sounds like your destroying your own argument. And the only way to stop the original attack would be better policing as shown by the lack of it in parkland.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #137 on: December 29, 2019, 10:11:27 PM »
So you agree that the best way to stop an attack after the fact is with a gun, sounds like your destroying your own argument. And the only way to stop the original attack would be better policing as shown by the lack of it in parkland.
How am I destroying my argument? I believe the current attack was stopped without a gun, no?
My argument is adding more guns to the mix will solve nothing.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #138 on: December 29, 2019, 10:13:13 PM »
Even if all that is done there are just evil people out there. How do we stop them from getting guns?

He used a knife. It's sickening how you turn every attack into some play for gun control.

And the attack in Brooklyn with a brick.. etc.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #139 on: December 29, 2019, 10:15:00 PM »
How am I destroying my argument? I believe the current attack was stopped without a gun, no?
My argument is adding more guns to the mix will solve nothing.

Invalid argument.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #140 on: December 29, 2019, 10:15:11 PM »
I believe the current attack was stopped without a gun, no?
Ya and what would have happened if the guy had a gun? how many people would have been killed?
What would have happened in the church in texas if there hadn't been a good guy with a gun?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #141 on: December 29, 2019, 10:27:27 PM »
He used a knife. It's sickening how you turn every attack into some play for gun control.
So you bring a gun into this debate and it is my fault. Ok I see how that works.  ::)
ETA: There have been two other recent tragedies and I never mentioned the word "gun" and both involved guns. Maybe take responsibility for injecting it into this discussion?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #142 on: December 29, 2019, 10:28:29 PM »
Invalid argument.
...because it is true?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #143 on: December 29, 2019, 10:29:13 PM »
Ya and what would have happened if the guy had a gun? how many people would have been killed?
What would have happened in the church in texas if there hadn't been a good guy with a gun?
Maybe look at it this way.

A bad guy in Taxes storms a Church with a gun, a good man with a gun stops him. 2 people are killed.
A bad guy in NY storms a shul with a knife, a good man with a table in the hand stops him. No one is killed B"h.

Now maybe you have your answer.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #144 on: December 29, 2019, 10:34:32 PM »
Maybe look at it this way.

A bad guy in Taxes storms a Church with a gun, a good man with a gun stops him. 2 people are killed.
A bad guy in NY storms a shul with a knife, a good man with a table in the hand stops him. No one is killed B"h.

Now maybe you have your answer.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #145 on: December 29, 2019, 10:38:29 PM »
+1000
I think much of this is caused by the media feeding into this! (I was just at the Auschwitz exhibit on Battery Park and I left shaking as the climate today is so similar to that of Europe in the 1930s! It's terrifying)
My Auschwitz survivor grandmother has been saying for months that we are reliving the 30's in Europe. She says we are blind and stupid not to pay attention to the anti-Semitism.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #146 on: December 29, 2019, 10:40:09 PM »
Maybe look at it this way.

A bad guy in NY storms a shul with a knife, a good man with a table in the hand stops him. No one is killed B"h.


Lets try To answer the question this time, what would have happened if the guy had a gun?
Would a table have stopped him?



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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #147 on: December 29, 2019, 10:44:38 PM »

1:11 starts (I believe was NOT a guard as video  says, they have a safety team of volunteer congregants)
Look how beautiful this is, shooting starts shooting ends. (Ideally no one dies, but once we are talking ideal, then no one is attacking us which is clearly not the case)



(Y'all do realize @CountValentine trolls these posts every single time right... )
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #148 on: December 29, 2019, 10:53:29 PM »
Look how beautiful this is,
(Y'all do realize @CountValentine trolls these posts every single time right... )
Look how beautiful this is? What is wrong with you?  ::)
Before you come here with your hit job I already posted this.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #149 on: December 29, 2019, 10:56:20 PM »
Lets try To answer the question this time, what would have happened if the guy had a gun?
Would a table have stopped him?
Ok I'll spoonfeed, There's a reason why the bad guy in Taxes comes with a gun and the bad guy in NY comes with a knife.