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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #420 on: January 02, 2020, 02:37:53 PM »
I believe it.
They've had people talk in schools, they've had meetings with “leaders of the African American community”. Leaders of the African American community ?? Lol

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #421 on: January 02, 2020, 02:39:32 PM »
They've had people talk in schools, they've had meetings with “leaders of the African American community”. Leaders of the African American community ?? Lol
Since you make fun of or dismiss and suggestions/questions what is your solution?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #422 on: January 02, 2020, 02:42:12 PM »
Since you make fun of or dismiss and suggestions/questions what is your solution?
Part of the issue is that some of the leadrs are the issue themselves.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #423 on: January 02, 2020, 02:43:29 PM »
Part of the issue is that some of the leadrs are the issue themselves.
It seems we identified the problem. So what is the next step?
What about marches?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #424 on: January 02, 2020, 02:43:42 PM »
Interesting. Been here 35 years and haven't had an encounter like that.
In general, I find black people in CLE are friendlier than Jews in NYC in the midwest vs NYC sort of way. They say hi and smile when you walk past them, whereas in NYC a stranger looks at you like you're nuts if you do that.

As NYC folks have moved to CLE en masse of late, I try to do my part to get them to say good shabbos as we walk past each other :)
Don't know which part of NYC you're talking about but I do get "gut Shabbos" very often from "strangers" that live in NY. Also, please keep in mind that if I were to say gut Shabbos or hi to e/o who walks past me, I would say that 10 times every second.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #425 on: January 02, 2020, 02:44:53 PM »
Oh! And when I was in Cleveland a few months ago there wasn't even 1 black person who smiled at me, let alone a friendly hi

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #426 on: January 02, 2020, 02:47:13 PM »
Oh! And when I was in Cleveland a few months ago there wasn't even 1 black person who smiled at me, let alone a friendly hi
Ime, people (blacks and whites including Jews) are generally friendlier in oot places than ny/nj

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #427 on: January 02, 2020, 02:50:25 PM »
It seems we identified the problem. So what is the next step?
What about marches?
Part of their being leaders is the media promoting them as such.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #428 on: January 02, 2020, 02:51:19 PM »
sorry to jump in  unannounced but im very curious. How is it, in the wake of diversity in our culture at the forefront, antisemitism is ramped. 


Moreover the national news decline to present this as a cycle of premeditated attacks and thread the connection between them - making even a "petty" attack against jews national news to support the premise.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #429 on: January 02, 2020, 02:56:23 PM »
Since you make fun of or dismiss and suggestions/questions what is your solution?
For starters new leadership. Deblasio doesn’t care about black crime, even when blacks are victims from black on black crime. He’s still out there blaming trump & white supremacists for these anti Semitic attacks. We need a mayor like giuliani. Tougher penalties are needed. Letting them out 2 minutes after arraignment is the biggest joke. Stop tying law enforcements hands. How’s that for starters ? I know, not gonna happen.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #430 on: January 02, 2020, 03:00:42 PM »
After working 20+ years in the hood I don't go there anymore. But remember I would know nothing about being spat on, things thrown at you or being shot. What is that saying about walk a mile in my shoes?
I’ve been shot at, had a big chunk of ice thrown at my head, & a kid of mine was thrown to the ground by a whole pack of them on his way home from school. This wasn’t even in the hood!! Care to walk a mile in my shoes ? :)

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #431 on: January 02, 2020, 03:02:47 PM »
I’ve been shot at, had a big chunk of ice thrown at my head, & a kid of mine was thrown to the ground by a whole pack of them on his way home from school. This wasn’t even in the hood!! Care to walk a mile in my shoes ? :)
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #432 on: January 02, 2020, 03:04:18 PM »
I’ve been shot at, had a big chunk of ice thrown at my head, & a kid of mine was thrown to the ground by a whole pack of them on his way home from school. This wasn’t even in the hood!! Care to walk a mile in my shoes ? :)

WOW! Where was that? Where do you live now?

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #433 on: January 02, 2020, 03:06:27 PM »
For starters new leadership. Deblasio doesn’t care about black crime, even when blacks are victims from black on black crime. He’s still out there blaming trump & white supremacists for these anti Semitic attacks. We need a mayor like giuliani. Tougher penalties are needed. Letting them out 2 minutes after arraignment is the biggest joke. Stop tying law enforcements hands. How’s that for starters ? I know, not gonna happen.
I could make fun of or dismiss some of your suggestions but won't.
Are you in favor of tougher penalties for criminals in general? That is something I would like to see.
The problem is when you give LE more leeway some abuse it. That abuse is mostly directed at minorities.
As for Rudy I am going to guess you want the old version and not the new version.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #434 on: January 02, 2020, 03:07:27 PM »
Care to walk a mile in my shoes ? :)
Best thing we could do is switch shoes for a week.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #435 on: January 02, 2020, 03:11:22 PM »
WOW! Where was that? Where do you live now?
2nd & 3rd were right in the heart of BP. Black thugs from the local high school.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #436 on: January 02, 2020, 03:13:20 PM »
2nd & 3rd were right in the heart of BP. Black thugs from the local high school.
something worth noting that a lot of the attacks were done by young teens , which kind of negates the argument That they're mad about something. Just pure hate
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #437 on: January 02, 2020, 03:16:50 PM »
something worth noting that a lot of the attacks were done by young teens , which kind of negates the argument That they're mad about something. Just pure hate
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #438 on: January 02, 2020, 03:20:25 PM »
I could make fun of or dismiss some of your suggestions but won't.
Are you in favor of tougher penalties for criminals in general? That is something I would like to see.
The problem is when you give LE more leeway some abuse it. That abuse is mostly directed at minorities.
As for Rudy I am going to guess you want the old version and not the new version.
Cash Bail Reform is the biggest joke out there. Bleeding heart liberals blamed the inability to make bail as a primary cause of minorities staying locked up. So we take away the judges discretion to order bail? The list of crimes that have mandatory ROR is pathetic. Manslaughter? Grand Larceny in the First Degree ($1MM+)? Assault?

The minute the woman who slapped 3 Orthodox women was released, she went out an committed another crime, and was released again. Cash bail reform will take NYC back to the 70's.

Just a reminder of the story I posted in the Prison thread. When I was in Rikers one of my bunkies was being held on an attempted robbery charge. His bail was $2,500. As we were in a working dorm, everyone had a job. He was working suicide watch which paid $156 a week. HE was there over 2 years when I got there because he couldnt save up enough money from work in Jail to bail himself out. Simple math would have had him out on bail in those 2 years. He chose to gamble away his weekly earnings instead of bail himself out. So what kept this idiot locked up? Cash bail?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #439 on: January 02, 2020, 03:24:26 PM »
something worth noting that a lot of the attacks were done by young teens , which kind of negates the argument That they're mad about something. Just pure hate
Its systemic. Cultural.
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