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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1265 on: August 30, 2022, 06:38:17 PM »

Would love to know the story about this one.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1266 on: August 30, 2022, 08:09:39 PM »
Would’ve been nice for any of the people standing around to demolish the worthless piece of garbage, instead of just watching.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1267 on: August 30, 2022, 08:12:28 PM »
Would’ve been nice for any of the people standing around to demolish the worthless piece of garbage, instead of just watching.
Exactly. Why wasn’t this thug beat down immediately?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1269 on: August 30, 2022, 08:21:59 PM »
Exactly. Why wasn’t this thug beat down immediately?
Its bothered me for awhile why we're always on the defensive, always running away. I think it comes down to this; the vast majority of us growing up in yeshivas have never fought anyone. People just don’t know how to. In all my yeshiva years I never recall a major fight. The oilam would literally need to take fighting classes.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1271 on: August 30, 2022, 08:30:47 PM »
Exactly. Why wasn’t this thug beat down immediately?
Basically people don't want to get involved.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1272 on: August 30, 2022, 08:36:09 PM »
Basically people don't want to get involved.

On the one hand yes, people don't want to get involved and who knows what the repercussions of getting involved would be. On the other hand I think most of us expect/hope that Jews would immediately instinctively jump to defend a fellow Jew.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1273 on: August 30, 2022, 08:40:37 PM »
On the one hand yes, people don't want to get involved and who knows what the repercussions of getting involved would be. On the other hand I think most of us expect/hope that Jews would immediately instinctively jump to defend a fellow Jew.
The situation matters also. This was basically over before it started. If he was on top of the guy beating him, I would hope anyone would try and stop it.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1274 on: August 30, 2022, 08:44:26 PM »
The situation matters also. This was basically over before it started. If he was on top of the guy beating him, I would hope anyone would try and stop it.

Sadly it looks like none of the bystanders flinched the entire time. Although one (two with the one the footage is from, possibly more?) has a phone and seems to be recording which is usually a good idea to get recording of the incident.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1275 on: August 30, 2022, 08:48:50 PM »
which is usually a good idea to get recording of the incident.
What does it matter ? He’d never sit a day in jail regardless.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1276 on: August 30, 2022, 08:55:46 PM »
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1277 on: August 30, 2022, 09:59:45 PM »
Its bothered me for awhile why we're always on the defensive, always running away. I think it comes down to this; the vast majority of us growing up in yeshivas have never fought anyone. People just don’t know how to. In all my yeshiva years I never recall a major fight. The oilam would literally need to take fighting classes.

Not only that, they probably froze when seeing this sudden punch in the face, and before they knew it was all over. 25 years ago "כאפצעם׳ס" was a daily event, since then most of the thugs and their families were driven out and we forgot the game.

Even though he would be out of jail within the hour I still wish the bystanders would pin him to the ground until police would arrive and take him into arrest with the whole commotion. From his gear it doesn't look like he is too used to such an honor.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1278 on: August 31, 2022, 01:10:14 AM »
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1279 on: August 31, 2022, 02:44:38 AM »
Its bothered me for awhile why we're always on the defensive, always running away. I think it comes down to this; the vast majority of us growing up in yeshivas have never fought anyone. People just don’t know how to. In all my yeshiva years I never recall a major fight. The oilam would literally need to take fighting classes.
It's like a 6 on one.