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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1560 on: January 10, 2023, 09:11:07 PM »
I don't think anyone would argue that this is not antisemitic.
I’m assuming you’re only including sane people in “anyone”
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1561 on: January 10, 2023, 09:41:19 PM »
Just looking for a definition for "right to exist" so we are not talking about two different things.

Define "right to choose". Do pro life people not belive s woman should get to choose what to do with their bodies? No. They do. They just don't believe that choice supersedes the life of a fetus. And within each of those viewpoints, there's a spectrum.

You can't expect such a charged issue to have a simple definition everyone will agree on. Does it mean Jewish people can live in the area, a Jewish state, a Jewish state with the right of return for all Jews worldwide, and plenty more options.

Having said that, the Palestinian position is they don't want Jews stepping foot on any part of the land they call Palestine, which includes the entirety of Israel. So a Jewish state is really getting ahead of ourselves anyway.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1564 on: January 11, 2023, 09:28:36 AM »
This is an issue that you refuse to see.
Connecting a random person with terrorism is not the same as connecting a random person with a democracy.

Do you see a difference here? I will connect people.
Most Jews support Israel.
Most Muslims support terrorist.

Just want to clarify this point.

If most people from a race or religion do something it's ok to assume they all do it?

Sounds like the uncle at thanksgiving defending his position, it's not racism if it's true!
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1565 on: January 11, 2023, 09:38:46 AM »
Don't think I will be able to check off a stress-free day today.  :)
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States come and go, borders change, name changes among other things. What does "right to exist" mean?
Are you saying if someone says Israel Doesn't have a right to exist there is still room to say they aren't anti-Semitic?

I will applaud you for asking questions about a topic I'd assume you don't know much about. As opposed to taking a position defending a movement that would like all Jews in Israel expelled from their homes...and worse.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1566 on: January 11, 2023, 09:46:39 AM »
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1567 on: January 11, 2023, 10:11:27 AM »
This is the problem with most of the discussions. Everyone has their own idea what the question means. I was originally going to ask it in the random question thread, but I doubt if it would have changed anything.
Bottom line one word answer, do you agree or disagree that going to a random jew in Miami and telling free Palestine at them is anti Semitic?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1568 on: January 11, 2023, 12:14:20 PM »
States come and go, borders change, name changes among other things. What does "Palistine" mean?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1570 on: January 11, 2023, 07:59:36 PM »
Are you saying if someone says Israel Doesn't have a right to exist there is still room to say they aren't anti-Semitic?

I will applaud you for asking questions about a topic I'd assume you don't know much about. As opposed to taking a position defending a movement that would like all Jews in Israel expelled from their homes...and worse.
I didn't say anything. I ask a question about what the term means (about anyone) so we are talking about the same thing instead of going around in circles.

I would rather approach an issue I don't nothing about with an open mind than believe I know everything about the issue but only able to see one side.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1571 on: January 11, 2023, 10:31:35 PM »
Bottom line one word answer, do you agree or disagree that going to a random jew in Miami and telling free Palestine at them is anti Semitic?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1578 on: January 16, 2023, 11:07:32 AM »
I guess to cause trouble?
No, just that you seem to say that MSNBC is unbiased.

I mean this guy is just plain blind, no one is calling them anti-semites because their Muslim. They're anti-Semites because of their actions.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #1579 on: January 16, 2023, 11:11:15 AM »
No, just that you seem to say that MSNBC is unbiased.
Are you joking? I have said many times they are the opposite of FOX.
FOX - nutcases on the right
MSNBC - nutcases on the left
Joy Reid - nutcase
Ja’han Jones - never heard of him.

Any questions?  :)
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