Author Topic: Aeroplan begins charging fuel surcharges (Read 5387 times)

Bp · « **on:** November 09, 2011, 11:53:50 PM »

Dan · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2011, 12:23:58 AM »

Quote from: Dan on February 23, 2010, 08:45:55 AM

I won't accumulate miles in Aeroplan because they scare me...too much risk that they will introduce fuel surcharges on Star Alliance tickets (after all they charge it on Air Canada redemptions) and crappy expiration policies.

shmiel · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2011, 12:54:32 AM »

Awful. Kudos to Dan for predicting this, I just didn't think they would do it this quick. I mean they just devalued their award chart big-time, and a mere 4 months later they drop this bombshell. Shame on Aeroplan. This also sucks for MR points, now there is no good *A program to transfer into. (ANA's expiration policy is even worse than Aeroplan, and transfer is not instant, but ANA rates are sometimes better).

Chaikel · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2011, 01:01:57 AM »

Quote from: shmiel on November 10, 2011, 12:54:32 AM

(ANA's expiration policy is even worse than Aeroplan, and transfer is not instant, but ANA rates are sometimes better).

ANA also charges YQ

shmiel · « **Reply #4 on:** November 10, 2011, 01:09:34 AM »

Quote from: Chaikel on November 10, 2011, 01:01:57 AM

ANA also charges YQ

Correct, but I was pointing out some key differences between the programs, unfortunately YQ is not one of them anymore

Dan · « **Reply #5 on:** November 10, 2011, 01:22:21 AM »

Can someone with AC miles please post sample surcharges on different *A carriers?
Doesn't seem like I can see the taxes without sufficient miles.

Dan · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2011, 01:26:54 AM »

From FT:

"so LH,OS,OZ,NH,TG are toast
I checked US,UA,CO,LO,LX,SQ,CA,NZ - and they were still ok. "

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:02:32 AM »

My experience was always that mixing in one of the non-YQ-airlines in a booking, reduced the YQ all over.

(LH always had more expensive taxes)

Chaikel · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:11:38 AM »

Quote from: Dan on November 10, 2011, 01:26:54 AM

From FT:

"...
I checked US,UA,CO,LO,LX,SQ,CA,NZ - and they were still ok. "

Matter of time?

JEWDA · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2011, 10:08:03 AM »

Quote from: Dan on November 10, 2011, 01:22:21 AM

Can someone with AC miles please post sample surcharges on different *A carriers?
Doesn't seem like I can see the taxes without sufficient miles.

I used aeroplan miles to fly from yyz to ewr on AC they charged me $160 for other charges

shmiel · « **Reply #10 on:** November 10, 2011, 10:21:35 AM »

Quote from: jewda on November 10, 2011, 10:08:03 AM

I used aeroplan miles to fly from yyz to ewr on AC they charged me $160 for other charges

That's an example of YQ sneaking into your wallet. In your case the fuel surcharge was probably about $105, which may not be terrible if you got a short-haul 15K award (instead of 25K). But for TATL you can get hit with upwards of $500, on what's supposed to be a free ticket.

Am · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2011, 10:53:28 PM »

Would the cost of converting aeroplan miles to other airlines through points.com be cheaper than the cost of fuel surcharges?

JEWDA · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:14:02 PM »

Quote from: Am on November 10, 2011, 10:53:28 PM

Would the cost of converting aeroplan miles to other airlines through points.com be cheaper than the cost of fuel surcharges?

I dont think its cheaper

Dan · « **Reply #13 on:** November 14, 2011, 10:30:41 PM »

https://www1.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_webup2670_2011_11_10&currentLanguage=en&supportCookie=true

AsherO · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2011, 01:33:29 AM »

Quote from: Dan on November 14, 2011, 10:30:41 PM

https://www1.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_webup2670_2011_11_10&currentLanguage=en&supportCookie=true

They finally made their mind up

aussiebochur · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2011, 04:56:36 AM »

For the moment you can still get away with Air NZ, Singapore, CO, UA, Swiss, Turkish, Air China, Brussels Airlines, EgyptAir, Spanair.

Though probably only a matter of time.

chuchem · « **Reply #16 on:** November 15, 2011, 10:39:29 AM »

Swiss is owed by Lufthansa, charges fuel surcharges as well. Dont think it makes sense, that they are still of the list, but not complaining

FlyFirst · « **Reply #17 on:** November 15, 2011, 01:17:29 PM »

Example...... NYC to Ukraine with aeroplan miles on LH

105 000
Aeroplan Miles Required 105 0001 Adult - Star Alliance Flight Reward - Business105 000 Total Aeroplan Miles Required .

Total Aeroplan fees and taxes (CAD) $150.00 Aeroplan charges will appear on your credit card statement as Aeroplan

Top-up Miles$150.00

Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges (USD) $574.00 Airport taxes, fees, and surcharges will appear on your credit card statement as an Air Canada charge and will display your ticket number.

Adult(s)

Germany Airport Security Charge $14.40 Germany International Passenger Service Charge $44.60 Fuel Surcharge $440.00 U.S. International Transportation Tax $32.60 U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $2.50 U.S Passenger Facility Charge $4.50 U.S Agriculture Fee $5.00 U.S.A Immigration User Fee $7.00 U.S. Customs User Fee $5.50 Ukraine Passenger Charge $11.00 Ukraine Security Tax $4.90 Ukraine Transportation Tax $2.00 Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $574.00 Total passengers 1 Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger type $574.00

Am · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:24:20 AM »

Is it still worth it to transfer worldpoints to aeroplan? If not what is the best thing to do with worldpoints now?

AsherO · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2011, 09:54:25 AM »

Quote from: Am on November 17, 2011, 02:24:20 AM

Is it still worth it to transfer worldpoints to aeroplan? If not what is the best thing to do with worldpoints now?

I think that's the only airline transfer option (please CMIIW), but you might want to hold onto them and transfer then when you want to book, this way you have flexibility with which account you're transferring to and you don't have to worry about Aeroplan's expiration policies (12-months with inactivity, and 7-years even with activity).