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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2019, 01:24:20 PM »
This is why you need guns in the hands on trained individuals and not just people because it makes them feel safe.
Hopefully indivduals like @chevron will start to understand this.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/12/jack-wilson/
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2019, 01:39:45 PM »
This is why you need guns in the hands on trained individuals and not just people because it makes them feel safe.
Hopefully indivduals like @chevron will start to understand this.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/12/jack-wilson/
I never got why someone who would never drive a car, or the like, without proper training, would be fine carrying a gun without proper training.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2019, 01:41:14 PM »
I never got why someone who would never drive a car, or the like, without proper training, would be fine carrying a gun without proper training.
Because they just yell 2A.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2019, 01:45:10 PM »
Because they just yell 2A.
Like most issues these days, it's all emotion. I want a gun, and I have a right to it! Anything controversial becomes emotional, and the real issues get tossed. I have a friend who recently purchased a gun. He plays around with it when it's not loaded. It irks me to no end, but he doesn't get why there's an issue if "he cleared it". Scary.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2019, 01:46:59 PM »
It irks me to no end, but he doesn't get why there's an issue if "he cleared it".
Don't get me started on these ignorant individuals.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2019, 01:47:49 PM »
Don't get me started on these ignorant individuals.
Don't come to my side of town...they run rampant here.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2019, 01:50:55 PM »
Don't come to my side of town...they run rampant here.
They are everywhere.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2019, 02:03:20 PM »
I never got why someone who would never drive a car, or the like, without proper training, would be fine carrying a gun without proper training.

Do you think most people who drive a car have received "proper training?" Or use them responsibly?

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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2019, 02:10:16 PM »
Do you think most people who drive a car have received "proper training?" Or use them responsibly?
You didn't ask me but no.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2019, 02:26:43 PM »
You need to exercise competent use of a handgun before getting a permit.

I have gone shooting many many many times. I know the velocity of my gun, ammo, stopping power of the jhp etc etc etc and i don't even consider myself qualified.

CSO has qualified well trained volunteers.

Now, I gotta agree though, most people driving in this country have very basic training

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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2019, 02:32:03 PM »
You need to exercise competent use of a handgun before getting a permit.
Pure BS!!!
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2019, 02:34:19 PM »
I have gone shooting many many many times. I know the velocity of my gun, ammo, stopping power of the jhp etc etc etc and i don't even consider myself qualified.
Do you mic your ammo?
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2019, 02:53:40 PM »
Do you think most people who drive a car have received "proper training?" Or use them responsibly?
No, but that doesn't have anything bearing on my statement.


You need to exercise competent use of a handgun before getting a permit.
To get a FOID/oen a firearm? Negative. You need nothing. To concealed/open carry? Depends where. In IL you can conceal carry without being able to hit the side of a barn.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2019, 02:55:05 PM »
To get a FOID/oen a firearm? Negative. You need nothing. To concealed/open carry? Depends where. In IL you can conceal carry without being able to hit the side of a barn.
...and some training classes are given in a bar. Real competence there.  :)
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2019, 02:59:38 PM »
...and some training classes are given in a bar. Real competence there.  :)
Even if you take your training in a real school, it doesn't mean you were listening, and most instructors just want their $ and you your cert.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2019, 03:03:36 PM »
Even if you take your training in a real school, it doesn't mean you were listening, and most instructors just want their $ and you your cert.
Somehow with beer on the table it does not feel or look like a real course.
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2019, 03:04:48 PM »
Somehow with beer on the table it does not feel or look like a real course.
The other way around! It's not a real course UNITL there's beer on the table! ;D
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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2019, 03:54:07 PM »
Dialogue is impossible with you clowns so I won't even bother but just so happens to be that almost nobody uses their turn signals, people use their phone while driving, people speed, run solid reds, Don't turn on the lights when it's raining despite it being the law.

Plenty of cars out there are not safe to drive, be it tires or brakes, people drive when tired or drunk or on drugs and medication.

Yet every day in the United States tens of thousands of car crashes occur and hundreds of people die and yet we still hand out driver's license to 16-year-olds I know how to do a three-point turn.

And that doesn't account for probably millions of people driving without valid driver's license or insurance.

But guns!!!


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Re: Can this be a blueprint?
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2019, 03:59:20 PM »
You keep harping on cars and I am the clown?  :)

A permit for a gun is a joke. You can't dispute that so you post nonsense.

Now you want to answer my simple question? Do you mic your ammo?
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