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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #240 on: January 07, 2020, 08:32:13 AM »
Of course some of it is because they hate Trump. Do you admit that some only support this because they support Trump?
Of course

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #241 on: January 07, 2020, 08:33:09 AM »
So if a D president took this same action many here would not support it?  :)
correct. They would suddenly be worried about repercussions.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #242 on: January 07, 2020, 08:33:21 AM »
So if a D president took this same action many here would not support it?  :)
That is an additional step

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #243 on: January 07, 2020, 08:36:26 AM »
You mean how I could predict 99% of the members response here? Or how I could predict 99% of the members response to pardoning someone? Probably all lucky guesses on my part. You want 5, 10 or more examples?

Are you referring to how they have been right 99% of the time? Trump won the election, economy is doing great, and all the bad things never happened. And we ain’t tired of winning just yet.

Here’s a formula I concocted to save you time, you can repost as necessary:
MSM anti-trump reaction (1-10 scale) - 1 level = CV unbiased opinion.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #244 on: January 07, 2020, 08:37:31 AM »
Of course
You have the nutcases on both sides that you need to exclude. That leaves a few R's/D's and mostly I's that can be objective. I will bet they are pretty much split. So when you see most here support this decision wouldn't it fair to say they are not being objective?
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #245 on: January 07, 2020, 08:40:00 AM »
Are you referring to how they have been right 99% of the time? Trump won the election, economy is doing great, and all the bad things never happened. And we ain’t tired of winning just yet.

Here’s a formula I concocted to save you time, you can repost as necessary:
MSM anti-trump reaction (1-10 scale) - 1 level = CV unbiased opinion.
If you want to put your money where your mouth is instead of just shooting it off just let me know. Like every other time we get into this you will fold like a cheap suit.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #246 on: January 07, 2020, 08:44:37 AM »
You have the nutcases on both sides that you need to exclude. That leaves a few R's/D's and mostly I's that can be objective. I will bet they are pretty much split. So when you see most here support this decision wouldn't it fair to say they are not being objective?
I agree that most posts I have seen on this topic have not been objective. As I said probably partially because of the other sides knee jerk reaction, people begun to close their eyes and ears to the other side. Likely so is because of support for DJT as aygart said, but even if so, I believe that in different times, people who are (in all likelihood), usually intellectually honest, would be so here as well.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #247 on: January 07, 2020, 08:45:40 AM »
That must be why anyone can predict just about every opinion of yours.
You are so naďve you don't even know if I am a D/R/I.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #248 on: January 07, 2020, 08:47:03 AM »
correct. They would suddenly be worried about repercussions.
We disagree and that is fine.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #249 on: January 07, 2020, 08:56:27 AM »
So if a D president took this same action many here would not support it?  :)

Soleimani has been at the top of the global most wanted terrorist list for a quarter of a century. I don't care which President took him out, the world is better off without him. I was not a big fan of President Obama's, but he did manage to have Bin Laden killed - props to him for that.

Regardless of which American president took them out, there are always repercussions. There is always a chance that it sparks a new wave of retaliation or escalation.


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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #250 on: January 07, 2020, 09:00:45 AM »
Soleimani has been at the top of the global most wanted terrorist list for a quarter of a century. I don't care which President took him out, the world is better off without him. I was not a big fan of President Obama's, but he did manage to have Bin Laden killed - props to him for that.

Regardless of which American president took them out, there are always repercussions. There is always a chance that it sparks a new wave of retaliation or escalation.


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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #251 on: January 07, 2020, 09:09:20 AM »
Regardless of which American president took them out, there are always repercussions. There is always a chance that it sparks a new wave of retaliation or escalation.
No one is disagreeing that he was a terrorist and deserved to be taken out. What about the leader of Iran that gave him his orders? Should we take him out since basically he is the top terrorist?

It a black and white world you just take them out but it doesn't work that way. You need to weight the consequences. This is where the disagreement comes in.

Unfortunately Trump just wants to spin this for his political gain: Trump struck a harshly partisan tone Monday that foreshadowed the political battles to come. Calling into Rush Limbaugh’s nationally syndicated radio show, the president maligned Democrats for “trying to make” Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani “sound like he was this wonderful human being” and argued that “elements of that party [are] openly supporting Iran, an enemy of the United States.”
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #252 on: January 07, 2020, 09:10:40 AM »
In general, I don't see how anyone thinks they have enough information to know whether or not this makes sense. There are so many questions here.

Was this a grabbed opportunity?
Was this because of a specific threat?
Did his influence in the region make him a valuable target?
How does this affect Iran's influence in Syria, Lebanon, and Gaza?
What was his role in Iran's internal politics?
and more.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #253 on: January 07, 2020, 09:14:28 AM »
In general, I don't see how anyone thinks they have enough information to know whether or not this makes sense. There are so many questions here.

Was this a grabbed opportunity?
Was this because of a specific threat?
Did his influence in the region make him a valuable target?
How does this affect Iran's influence in Syria, Lebanon, and Gaza?
What was his role in Iran's internal politics?
and more.
We don't have enough information and that is the reason so many are split on this. If you can't even understand both positions on it that just compounds the problem.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #254 on: January 07, 2020, 09:17:08 AM »
We don't have enough information and that is the reason so many are split on this. If you can't even understand both positions on it that just compounds the problem.
Anyone who can't understand a differing opinion that their own always compounds the problem. It is usually because they don't really understand their own opinion either.
Having any opinion at all with the amount of questions is simply ludicrous. This should not result in a split but rather in people being undecided.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #255 on: January 07, 2020, 09:36:58 AM »
Anyone who can't understand a differing opinion that their own always compounds the problem. It is usually because they don't really understand their own opinion either.
Having any opinion at all with the amount of questions is simply ludicrous. This should not result in a split but rather in people being undecided.
Some are so sure what will happen here they want to bet on it. Now me on the other hand who bets on mostly anything would not touch this one.  :)
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #256 on: January 07, 2020, 09:41:52 AM »
Some are so sure what will happen here they want to bet on it. Now me on the other hand who bets on mostly anything would not touch this one.  :)
But the stated reason has nothing to do with the lack of information.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #257 on: January 07, 2020, 09:44:54 AM »
But the stated reason has nothing to do with the lack of information.
Unless he has some inside info it sure is.
Lets not forget past presidents R/D did not go down this road. They did have inside info.  ;)
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #258 on: January 07, 2020, 09:59:19 AM »
Unless he has some inside info it sure is.
Lets not forget past presidents R/D did not go down this road. They did have inside info.  ;)
Who are you referring to as he?

I don't see how this is relevant to your stated reason.
I don't bet when it comes to American lives and I will assume you didn't mean it that way.

Either way, The current POTUS has the same inside information that previous administrations had, but any previous POTUS only has outdated information.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #259 on: January 07, 2020, 10:04:42 AM »
Either way, The current POTUS has the same inside information that previous administrations had, but any previous POTUS only has outdated information.
We have heard the current POTUS doesn't even read briefings. Also past presidents were not compulsive liars and ego maniacs like this one. How many past presidents claimed they knew more about everything that the experts?

You probably never watched the apprentice but you should. He making decisions the same way he did on that show. He believes he knows better than anyone else. Very dangerous to have someone in charge like that.
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