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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #525 on: January 08, 2020, 08:49:01 PM »
ok so i tried to dumb it down  for you guys

This is going to be the funniest comment you see all day. Take a moment to appreciate it.

The biggest victory (even bigger than killing "the worlds number one bad guy) for Trump, is everyone in the media looking like a bunch of fools. Well played Mr president!!!


It is very sad how with rockets flying and planes "crashing" what you care about is whether the media looks like fools.

@aygart responds, suggesting it's wrong for me to complement trump when there was a plane crash. i assume he is suggesting there is a cause and effect here because why else mention?


great way to try and dramatize, but i'm not going to fall for it. Have yourself a wonderful day.

p.s. thoughts and prayers to those who perished on the plane crash, as well as to their families.

I refute the notion they are connected. Plane crash is sad. Trump still had a good day. Capeesh?

So you get called out and then try and clean it up.

@CountValentine jumps in (because obviously) and suggests i was backing off my comment. Though only reason to back off if Trump is responsible for plain crash.
you as well. Blaming the plane crash on Trump and suggesting anyone else who doesn't as evil, is just par for the course.
I once again refute that notion. "par for the course" was refering back to @aygart comment that my statement was "sad", insinuating those with my opinion are heartless.
I never mentioned planes or blamed Trump for any plane crash but you keep making up lies saying I did. Why do you keep quoting me perpetuating this lie?

No you did not. I wasn't talking to you. I was commenting back to @aygart. sheesh.

Are you confusing him with me?

Amazing all you can go to is how this affects Trump politically.

Not confusing anyone.

as i mentioned on my original post, please have yourselves a wonderful evening. Consider this conversation over. I'm done with having to dumb things down

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #526 on: January 08, 2020, 09:32:33 PM »
No you did not. I wasn't talking to you. I was commenting back to @aygart. sheesh.
Let me explain it so even someone with a half a brain cell can understand. Hopefully that will be dumbed down enough for you to understand.
You don't quote someone and then try and say you were not talking to them. Just say you accidently quoted the wrong person. The problem now is you dug your whole so deep you can't get out of it. Either way have yourself a good evening.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #527 on: January 08, 2020, 10:23:25 PM »
Let me explain it so even someone with a half a brain cell can understand. Hopefully that will be dumbed down enough for you to understand.
You don't quote someone and then try and say you were not talking to them. Just say you accidently quoted the wrong person. The problem now is you dug your whole so deep you can't get out of it. Either way have yourself a good evening.

You just enhanced it even more! Thank you for the wishes!

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #528 on: January 08, 2020, 11:10:57 PM »
Here is my 2 cents just cause I'm bored and I really should stop fighting with Persians on Twitter (maybe they'll hack me next). It's mostly rambling though....

I think @BP16 is spot on. I think that despite the media portraying Trump to be a warmonger he's been very cautious about ratcheting up the violence. But since he has a reputation for being unhinged Iran is also pretty nervous about how far they can go before all hell breaks loose. To @Dan point there is clearly no war yet and it looks like smarter heads in Iran might not want a war.

But there is also the chance that hot heads in Iran like those in the Quds (Jerusalem / Holy) force trying to start the Shiite (twelver) version of Armageddon. I think that's why taking out Soleimani was so important. Aside from what was very likely a threat to American troops (how imminent is yet tbd) it's pretty clear that for the past decade plus he's been at the helm moving all sort of pieces in place for an Armageddon push to topple the zionist regime so to speak.

I really don't like describing secular things biblically but with Iran it really seems there is a biblical aspect to what they do. I know very little about Islam and even less about Shia but it seems they have messianic beliefs (Mahdi) very similar to Judaism. And just like there's a bunch of evangelicals down in Texas that support Israel out of some sort of religious drive it seems the same is true with some Shi'ites in Iran. I bring this up because there are plenty of curveballs that could be thrown right now from various militia groups to nasrallah to some quds generals looking to set a name (or bring along the Mahdi). So I would not rule out a hot direct conflict with Iran. They have a tendency to blow up Israeli embassies (or tour buses) which can suck everyone back in pretty quickly.

I do think there will be a pause right now (from Iran not necessarily militias) if for no other reason than the downing of the Ukrainian jet. Cooler heads in Iran need to figure out a way to blame this on someone fast or risk losing whatever international support they have left. I hope the pause lasts a while. (I kind of feel bad for the soldier that shot the missile thinking he was a hero for downing an American aircraft and he and his family might likely have already been executed soviet style???)

For the longest time I've considered someone like Zarif in Iran to be a lying snake I also think that he's a moderate force who might actually be needed by the US if we were to try another regime change. I think Zarif and many others might actually be relieved that Soleimani is gone in a KGB sort of way where you can't express relief for fear of reprisal but boy do you feel it. He likely has eyes on Rouhani's seat which should be available to him next year. If someone like Biden wins the election next year and assuming we're not in a full out war I can see Zarif and Biden being in a position to redraw a nuclear agreement (which would likely be the same mess as under Obama but maybe not).

But Trump is a wild card and I think that regardless of what the media is saying, this is really helping him out politically. Also, North Korea never gave their "christmas present" which makes me think they're pretty nervous and want to finalize something too. If he gets some sort of real treaty out of North Korea I don't see how he could possibly lose the election.

So to end my rambling I really hope there won't be a war but I think it's way to early to write it off. If this becomes protracted I see this also helping get Trump reelected but if that's the case then I think the next Iranian president will tilt more Ahmadinejad and less Rouhani which could make this conflict get really really hot.



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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #529 on: January 08, 2020, 11:17:06 PM »
I am going to take a wild guess from your post as say you are a Trump supporter?

What is this about shooting down the plane, link?
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #530 on: January 08, 2020, 11:24:57 PM »
I am going to take a wild guess from your post as say you are a Trump supporter?

What is this about shooting down the plane, link?
Not really.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #531 on: January 08, 2020, 11:30:17 PM »
I am going to take a wild guess from your post as say you are a Trump supporter?

To clarify it's slim pickings in the political world now. I do think the media is very unfair to him. But i also think he's obtuse and not fit for the office he holds. The world has been moving to strong man leaders over the past decade or two,  he's just a symptom of that.

I do wonder how Hillary would've handled these situations. I feel like we'd already be neck deep in another conflict.


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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #532 on: January 08, 2020, 11:32:19 PM »
Thanks for the clarification. "Not really" can be taken many ways. 
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #533 on: January 08, 2020, 11:39:05 PM »

I do wonder how Hillary would've handled these situations.
Depends on the size donation the now defunct Clinton Foundation would've gotten.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #534 on: January 09, 2020, 12:34:55 AM »
No one knows at this point. I believe they targeted military assets. They made it clear this was Iran taking this action and not proxies as many of you predicted they would use. This was an act of war. I am grateful Trump backed down. You all say I never give Trump credit. He gets 100% credit for this not going further. So please bookmark this when the lies start/continue that I never give him credit.

Like I said earlier in the thread. This attack is the same thing that happened after Israel killed a top hezbollah commander. They retaliated and Israel pretended that soldiers got hurt and that was the end of it. The US just did the same thing. Seems to have worked based on Mr Valentines hysterics that we were attacked with war like attacks.....well played Mr President!

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #535 on: January 09, 2020, 12:37:09 AM »
Like I said earlier in the thread. This attack is the same thing that happened after Israel killed a top hezbollah commander. They retaliated and Israel pretended that soldiers got hurt and that was the end of it. The US just did the same thing. Seems to have worked based on Mr Valentines hysterics that we were attacked with war like attacks.....well played Mr President!
Do you really believe firing missiles at a US army base isn't warlike?

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #536 on: January 09, 2020, 12:40:26 AM »
Do you really believe firing missiles at a US army base isn't warlike?

If it was just a random attack it would definitely be warlike but after what we did to them I think its just allowing the children to fight back a little and then say enough.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #537 on: January 09, 2020, 12:43:01 AM »
If it was just a random attack it would definitely be warlike but after what we did to them I think its just allowing the children to fight back a little and then say enough.
Why does it change based on what we did before?

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #538 on: January 09, 2020, 12:44:25 AM »
Why does it change based on what we did before?

it is called tit for tat. See what I wrote about Israel and Hezbollah.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #539 on: January 09, 2020, 12:45:19 AM »
it is called tit for tat. See what I wrote about Israel and Hezbollah.
Tit for tat doesn't make it less warlike.