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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #540 on: January 09, 2020, 02:07:12 AM »
Mob storming an embassy is very different from ballistic missiles attacking US forces.
I still don`t see which forces were attacked if no one got killed and they warned before
Like I said earlier in the thread. This attack is the same thing that happened after Israel killed a top hezbollah commander. They retaliated and Israel pretended that soldiers got hurt and that was the end of it. The US just did the same thing. Seems to have worked based on Mr Valentines hysterics that we were attacked with war like attacks.....well played Mr President!
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #541 on: January 09, 2020, 02:15:55 AM »
Bottom line is that Mr. Trump has everybody in his pocket and does what he wants without asking. Everytime he does something everyone barks but do nothing (I forgot about impeachment) and he stays the winner by his people. Whatever critics ever said bad about him came out to be good. Now about the killing I think it was a great think to get rid of that trash, and it costed the US some money in damage... which that murder would have and had done more himself. Best of all Trump got his media coverage he needed.... so for now lets go back on disscusing impeachment etc.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #542 on: January 09, 2020, 02:18:13 AM »
Tit for tat doesn't make it less warlike.

Warlike means we go to war over what happens. Tit for Tat is letting them tell their constituents (like @CountValentine ) that they have harmed/killed/destroyed US forces, even though its a lie. Dictators need these type of victories in order to impress and quiet down the people.....It really is quite simple to understand.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #543 on: January 09, 2020, 02:33:56 AM »
Warlike means we go to war over what happens. Tit for Tat is letting them tell their constituents (like @CountValentine ) that they have harmed/killed/destroyed US forces, even though its a lie. Dictators need these type of victories in order to impress and quiet down the people.....It really is quite simple to understand.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #544 on: January 09, 2020, 08:13:09 AM »
Bottom line is that Mr. Trump has everybody in his pocket and does what he wants without asking. Everytime he does something everyone barks but do nothing (I forgot about impeachment) and he stays the winner by his people. Whatever critics ever said bad about him came out to be good. Now about the killing I think it was a great think to get rid of that trash, and it costed the US some money in damage... which that murder would have and had done more himself. Best of all Trump got his media coverage he needed.... so for now lets go back on disscusing impeachment etc.
Busy with lives on the line and best of all Trump got his media coverage? I can't believe how so many couldn't care less about US lives as long as Trump.... :o :o :o
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #545 on: January 09, 2020, 08:20:31 AM »
Busy with lives on the line and best of all Trump got his media coverage? I can't believe how so many couldn't care less about US lives as long as Trump.... :o :o :o

Dont be stupid, nobody doesn't care about US lives. They were in more danger with the terrorist alive then with him dead. The overall good outweighed the risk of a few missiles.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #546 on: January 09, 2020, 08:38:58 AM »
Dont be stupid, nobody doesn't care about US lives. They were in more danger with the terrorist alive then with him dead. The overall good outweighed the risk of a few missiles.

An argument could be made, in my opinion a legitimate one, that the good of Soleimani dead outweighs the risk of retaliation which could potentially kill Americans, a major consideration being how many.  It is a decision that must be taken with utmost deliberation and your use of the words "a few missiles" conveys a cavalierness that I hope was unintentional, even though in this particular case, so far, no Americans were killed.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #547 on: January 09, 2020, 09:10:56 AM »
Busy with lives on the line and best of all Trump got his media coverage? I can't believe how so many couldn't care less about US lives as long as Trump.... :o :o :o
In my opinion the most lifes on the line were when this arch terrorist was alive!

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #548 on: January 09, 2020, 09:19:05 AM »
An argument could be made, in my opinion a legitimate one, that the good of Soleimani dead outweighs the risk of retaliation which could potentially kill Americans, a major consideration being how many.  It is a decision that must be taken with utmost deliberation and your use of the words "a few missiles" conveys a cavalierness that I hope was unintentional, even though in this particular case, so far, no Americans were killed.
Again no one knows what will be or whould have been, this terrorist killed in the last decade much more people then you could count but some signs you may pick up like that the US new before the attack and that no one got killed like the Americans need to be fed news so do the Iranians.
would you want the embassy to be attacked first again with 20 killed and then everyone will scream Trump didn`t do anything last time so they picked it up a notch? 

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #549 on: January 09, 2020, 09:25:47 AM »
Dont be stupid, nobody doesn't care about US lives. They were in more danger with the terrorist alive then with him dead. The overall good outweighed the risk of a few missiles.
In my opinion the most lifes on the line were when this arch terrorist was alive!
Very possible but then leave Trump and the media out of it. If it saved American lives isn't that the best part and not some stupidity between Trump and the media?

Even with lives saved all you seem to care about is Trump not the lives saved.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #550 on: January 09, 2020, 09:26:10 AM »
Again no one knows what will be or whould have been, this terrorist killed in the last decade much more people then you could count but some signs you may pick up like that the US new before the attack and that no one got killed like the Americans need to be fed news so do the Iranians.
would you want the embassy to be attacked first again with 20 killed and then everyone will scream Trump didn`t do anything last time so they picked it up a notch?

Did you read my post? This has nothing to do with what I wrote.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #551 on: January 09, 2020, 09:29:00 AM »
Did you read my post? This has nothing to do with what I wrote.
Yeah but Trump pulled one on the media.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #552 on: January 09, 2020, 09:57:08 AM »
Very possible but then leave Trump and the media out of it. If it saved American lives isn't that the best part and not some stupidity between Trump and the media?

Even with lives saved all you seem to care about is Trump not the lives saved.
Don`t get me wrong there is two ways we could look at it or in anything what Trump does. He does things which you could take as a benefit for USA or for his benefit or both
But you cannot say because your`e anti-trump that whatever he does is not good. What you could say is that he puts a focus on things for his benefit.

In short:  There were 2 good things out of it...  and because of that most critics would complain while looking away from the good side

My Opinion: There are enough people taking care on this thread for Trumps Foreign policy so I should be taking care of the second benefit!

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #553 on: January 09, 2020, 10:02:23 AM »
Warlike means we go to war over what happens.
Not true. But if that's what you meant then I get your point.

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #554 on: January 09, 2020, 10:11:20 AM »
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More sanctions placed on Iran
HOW CAN THEY HAVE NOT PLACED EVERY POSSIBLE SANCTION ON THIS EVIL REGIME YET???!!!
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #555 on: January 09, 2020, 10:30:20 AM »
Don`t get me wrong there is two ways we could look at it or in anything what Trump does. He does things which you could take as a benefit for USA or for his benefit or both
But you cannot say because your`e anti-trump that whatever he does is not good. What you could say is that he puts a focus on things for his benefit.

In short:  There were 2 good things out of it...  and because of that most critics would complain while looking away from the good side

My Opinion: There are enough people taking care on this thread for Trumps Foreign policy so I should be taking care of the second benefit!

That is like talking about a prospective shidduch who has so many maalos. She is a yirei shomayim, has good middos, is smart, etc. But all you talk about is how she knows how to play a cello.
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #556 on: January 09, 2020, 10:33:17 AM »
Reading through the comments, and don't mean to hijack this thread, but take the two statements:

- The Sky is Red
- The sky is blue

We all know which one is true, and which is false. Yet somehow I feel that how much you believe each statement depends on which side you are on and which side it came from. If your side said the sky is red, you'd believe it wholeheartedly.

You'd completely ignore the true facts (or convince yourself that they were false) to support "your side"

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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #557 on: January 09, 2020, 10:36:54 AM »
I really find it odd so many here believe killing this terrorist will save lives. Like the guy who took his place isn't just as bad or worse. Or the orders don't come from the top. Was this guy some great master mind that was irreplaceable?
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #558 on: January 09, 2020, 10:38:50 AM »
I really find it odd so many here believe killing this terrorist will save lives. Like the guy who took his place isn't just as bad or worse. Or the orders don't come from the top. Was this guy some great master mind that was irreplaceable?
There are those discussing how his influence was integral to the relationships with Syria and Hezbollah
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Re: Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.
« Reply #559 on: January 09, 2020, 10:40:37 AM »
There are those discussing how his influence was integral to the relationships with Syria and Hezbollah
So he was a great military mind that can't be replaced that easily?
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