Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.

[as2]

Not cancel the Iran deal. Now they will try harder than ever to get the bomb.

You're joking, right?

[whYME]

Not cancel the Iran deal.

So allowing them to make the bomb, but having them wait a few years first, during which they can work on all the technology they need to deliver the bomb, while giving them the cash they need for this and opening up their economy making everything easier, would've been a lot better than at least trying to stop them -- even if it's ultimately unsuccessful.

[CountValentine]

You're joking, right?

So allowing them to make the bomb, but having them wait a few years first, during which they can work on all the technology they need to deliver the bomb, while giving them the cash they need for this and opening up their economy making everything easier, would've been a lot better than at least trying to stop them -- even if it's ultimately unsuccessful.

There is a reason that most of the US and the world backs the deal.
Most here are against the deal. You going to tell that is because they support Trump also. PC Friday at its best. 

[aygart]

There is a reason that most of the US and the world backs the deal.
Most here are against the deal. You going to tell that is because they support Trump also. PC Friday at its best. 

They were against the deal prior to Trump as well.

[whYME]

There is a reason that most of the US and the world backs the deal.

Right, take everything you're constantly saying about Trump's supporters and apply it to Obama and support for the deal makes sense. Although I disagree with you about most of the US being pro the deal, definitely not those who actually know what the deal is.

There is a reason...

If there's actually a good reason I'm open to hearing it.

[as2]

There is a reason that most of the US and the world backs the deal.
Most here are against the deal. You going to tell that is because they support Trump also. PC Friday at its best. 

Hey, don't associate me with either side of the fence. Iran is a complete joke, and there have already been instances of them breaching their deal. The deal seemed to be a sham. You can't negotiate with terrorists. I don't care which president is involved, the loss of the deal isn't anything to mourn. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the sanction put on Iran in the past few years, were a result of them not holding up their end of the agreement.

[CountValentine]

They were against the deal prior to Trump as well.

Exactly, think about it.

[CountValentine]

Hey, don't associate me with either side of the fence.

I don't.

[as2]

I don't.

Bless you.

[Mountain Man]

Not cancel the Iran deal. Now they will try harder than ever to get the bomb.

They were going for the bomb regardless. The deal gave Iran a ton of breathing room to let soleimani build militias and support throughout the middle east and beyond. If Iran got a bomb without having a strong network it would be much more susceptible to say an airstrike or similar campaign. It's actually kind of neat how Iran has so many proxies it can use to carry out mischief to distract the world.

[Mountain Man]

They were going for the bomb regardless. The deal gave Iran a ton of breathing room to let soleimani build militias and support throughout the middle east and beyond. If Iran got a bomb without having a strong network it would be much more susceptible to say an airstrike or similar campaign. It's actually kind of neat how Iran has so many proxies it can use to carry out mischief to distract the world.

Like for example Israel would be very careful about a preemptive strike now that Hezbollah has 100,000+ rockets aimed at them and waiting for Iran's word. Same with Saudi Arabia with the Houthi's, same with America now with all the militia activity occurring in Iraq.

[mercaz1]

There is a reason that most of the US and the world backs the deal.
Most here are against the deal. You going to tell that is because they support Trump also. PC Friday at its best. 

Same as Chamberlain and Hitler-
Iran was either not going to abide by the treaty or just use the years that the treaty was in effect to do everything to further their goal to get nukes

[whYME]

Same as Chamberlain and Hitler-
Iran was either not going to abide by the treaty or just use the years that the treaty was in effect to do everything to further their goal to get nukes

He knows all this. He's only for JCPOA because Trump pulled out.

(See, two can play this game )

[CountValentine]

(See, two can play this game )

Except your data base is one and mine is hundreds if not thousand of members. 

[CountValentine]

...do everything to further their goal to get nukes

Without the treaty it just makes there job that much easier, no?

[whYME]

Without the treaty it just makes there job that much easier, no?

No, the treaty deal makes it much easier for them but with a small delay.

ETA: It wasn't a treaty.

[mercaz1]

Without the treaty it just makes there job that much easier, no?

the continued sanctions and continued exclusion from major world commerce makes it much harder than if they would have had access and grown their economy and were able to do everything to get ready till treaty expired which is pretty soon anyways

also they were violating the treaty pretty soon afterwards IIRC

[CountValentine]

No, the treaty deal makes it much easier for them but with a small delay.

ETA: It wasn't a treaty.

the continued sanctions and continued exclusion from major world commerce makes it much harder than if they would have had access and grown their economy and were able to do everything to get ready till treaty expired which is pretty soon anyways

also they were violating the treaty pretty soon afterwards IIRC

Not looking to go round and round even if it is Friday. Would it be fair to say nobody really knows and that is why the US is split on this?

[whYME]

Since in this thread you seem to be focusing on who said/did what, rather than the substance of the matter, how about what Schumer said about the deal

Therefore, I will vote to disapprove the agreement, ... because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power. Better to keep U.S. sanctions in place, strengthen them, enforce secondary sanctions on other nations, and pursue the hard-trodden path of diplomacy once more, difficult as it may be.

For all of these reasons, I believe the vote to disapprove is the right one.

[mercaz1]

Not looking to go round and round even if it is Friday. Would it be fair to say nobody really knows and that is why the US is split on this?

history will judge