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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2020, 11:49:06 PM »
What an amazing event!! Overwhelmingly Chassidish and in hindsight it was obviously geared towards the Chassidim.

Aguda should've hired these guys instead.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2020, 11:49:40 PM »
Very inappropriate/unprofessional presentation just finished.

Totally appropriate. Rabbanim were glued to the screens.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2020, 11:50:07 PM »
What an amazing event!! Overwhelmingly Chassidish and in hindsight it was obviously geared towards the Chassidim.

Aguda should've hired these guys instead.
Aguda had to cater to other groups too.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2020, 11:54:39 PM »
Aguda had to cater to other groups too.

Of course, but Aguda was a disaster at every level. Here everything worked like clockwork. Sound was the best ever seen. Same with Mona and the music, production etc.
Aguda hired incompetent people and the planning and execution was poor.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2020, 11:55:40 PM »
What an amazing event!! Overwhelmingly Chassidish and in hindsight it was obviously geared towards the Chassidim.

Aguda should've hired these guys instead.
You do realize that other frum Jews exist besides Chassidim, right? As a Klal organization, Agudah has a responsibility to be geared to all Frum Jews, and I hope that you have the capacity to understand that.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2020, 12:01:14 AM »
You do realize that other frum Jews exist besides Chassidim, right? As a Klal organization, Agudah has a responsibility to be geared to all Frum Jews, and I hope that you have the capacity to understand that.

These people are competent enough to run it geared towards the Aguda crowd. That's my point.

Aguda hired the wrong people and the execution was therefore a disaster.
I say all this as a staunch agudist.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2020, 12:04:41 AM »
These people are competent enough to run it geared towards the Aguda crowd. That's my point.

Aguda hired the wrong people and the execution was therefore a disaster.
I say all this as a staunch agudist.
I didn't have any issues with Agudah's program. I thought everything was beautiful. You may have been thrown off by the outdoor-in-the- freezing-cold vs. comfortable indoor event.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2020, 12:07:53 AM »
I didn't have any issues with Agudah's program. I thought everything was beautiful. You may have been thrown off by the outdoor-in-the- freezing-cold vs. comfortable indoor event.

Did you attend the Dirshu siyum?

I was at both and am comparing.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2020, 12:15:32 AM »
Did you attend the Dirshu siyum?

I was at both and am comparing.
Ok. Enjoy. Just leave your agenda at home.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2020, 12:26:49 AM »
Ok. Enjoy. Just leave your agenda at home.

Agenda? You don't know me. I'm a staunch Agudist.
I was even upset at Dirshu for competing with Aguda. But after the Aguda siyum was a letdown, and I saw the beautiful Dirshu siyumim abroad, I decided to buy a ticket last minute after they were all sold out. Read my posts in other groups.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2020, 12:31:35 AM »
I was at both too. What exactly are you calling a disaster there vs success here?

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2020, 12:35:03 AM »
I was at both too. What exactly are you calling a disaster there vs success here?

Choir. Music. Sound. Production. Actually gave people a few bottles of water, a sandwich and danishes, instead of the super stingy Aguda.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2020, 12:37:34 AM »
Choir. Music. Sound. Production. Actually gave people a few bottles of water, a sandwich and danishes, instead of the super stingy Aguda.
The fact that this was a better concert doesn't make Agudah a disaster. Levine, Daskal Helfgott are no disasters. Of course sound is better in a smaller indoor venue.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2020, 12:40:11 AM »
Speaker lineup here was pretty solid, but Novominsker, R Frand, R Shmuel, R Antwerp were also no disasters. Plus the on field snippets, plus the videos which were all great hits.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2020, 12:41:04 AM »
The fact that this was a better concert doesn't make Agudah a disaster. Levine, Daskal Helfgott are no disasters. Of course sound is better in a smaller indoor venue.

The sound was so bad IMHO at Aguda and the choir can't even compare, that I don't think the main issue was Aguda being outdoor.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2020, 12:41:41 AM »
Speaker lineup here was pretty solid, but Novominsker, R Frand, R Shmuel, R Antwerp were also no disasters. Plus the on field snippets, plus the videos which were all great hits.

Correct. Note. I didn't criticize the Aguda speeches.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2020, 12:42:17 AM »
Let's not forget, one was trying to make money, while the other was maybe trying to recoup some of it's expenditure.
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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2020, 12:42:39 AM »
Of course, but Aguda was a disaster at every level. Here everything worked like clockwork. Sound was the best ever seen. Same with Mona and the music, production etc.
Aguda hired incompetent people and the planning and execution was poor.
Ehem eHem... sound was horrendous by the last dance set at the end. And throughout the entire event was decent at best. They didn’t nail it unfortunately. Time to hire real goyishe sound guys that do these mega concerts for a living instead of using the sound guy who’ll be tomorrow in Ateres Chaya...

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2020, 12:43:17 AM »
Let's not forget, one was trying to make money, while the other was maybe trying to recoup some of it's expenditure.

I just commented to someone that I looked through the Dirshu magazine and I can't find a single ad.

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Re: Dirshu world siyum hashas North America
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2020, 12:45:57 AM »
Ehem eHem... sound was horrendous by the last dance set at the end. And throughout the entire event was decent at best. They didn’t nail it unfortunately. Time to hire real goyishe sound guys that do these mega concerts for a living instead of using the sound guy who’ll be tomorrow in Ateres Chaya...
Same here. I sat in the highest section and there was zero coverage. I literally went down at every music production so I can hear.