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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2020, 09:35:53 AM »
Or blown up by terrorist.
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2020, 09:52:24 AM »
The aircraft apparently went in for maintenance on Monday.
I don't think it's crazy to think this was a result of a maintenance issue.
Maybe. But I think it's far more likely it was shot down.

Maybe maybe someone malicious tried to make this one look like a boeing accident hoping to piss off Ukraine in conjuction with the impeachment proceedings.
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2020, 09:53:08 AM »
Here is the passenger list:

Surname, Name, Year of Birth


Exactly, likely all the Canadians were dual citizens.
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2020, 10:25:35 AM »
Ukrainian investigators have indicated that a Boeing 737-800 which crashed shortly after departing Tehran had suffered an in-flight fire.

The Ukrainian investigation authority NBAAI says the preliminary information has been obtained from “media sources”.

It has not identified these sources, although an undated segment of video footage – which has not been officially authenticated – has been circulating on social media purporting to show the aircraft apparently ablaze and shedding parts while flying in darkness.
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2020, 11:22:18 AM »
Ukrainian investigators have indicated that a Boeing 737-800 which crashed shortly after departing Tehran had suffered an in-flight fire.

The Ukrainian investigation authority NBAAI says the preliminary information has been obtained from “media sources”.

It has not identified these sources, although an undated segment of video footage – which has not been officially authenticated – has been circulating on social media purporting to show the aircraft apparently ablaze and shedding parts while flying in darkness.


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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2020, 11:25:36 AM »
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2020, 11:30:02 AM »
I still don't understand why Iran would shoot down a Ukrainian plane with close to 100 Iranians...

I would suspect that if shot down it might've been a mistake.

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2020, 11:37:28 AM »
I still don't understand why Iran would shoot down a Ukrainian plane with close to 100 Iranians...

I would suspect that if shot down it might've been a mistake.

Who said it wasn't a mistake? That's why they said within the hour it was "mechanical"

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2020, 11:41:39 AM »
Who said it wasn't a mistake? That's why they said within the hour it was "mechanical"
I'm responding to all that don't think it was in mechanical issue.

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2020, 12:38:27 PM »
I still don't understand why Iran would shoot down a Ukrainian plane with close to 100 Iranians...

I would suspect that if shot down it might've been a mistake.
Probably mistook it for something else.
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2020, 12:41:55 PM »

Probably mistook it for something else.

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More likely they mistook it for another plane.


My best guess.
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2020, 12:54:50 PM »

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My best guess.

Gotta be extremely incompetent for that. It was practically in the airport, could probably see the airplanes logo with binoculars. A casual check on the flight tracking websites would work as well.

Not to mention all the advanced equipment a  military should have.

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2020, 01:07:15 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/01/06/iran-air-flight-irans-president-invokes-tragedy-many-americans-have-forgotten/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
I know about that. (One of the things I like to  go through in my spare time is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft?wprov=sfla1)

I'm not saying impossible, just saying extremely incompetent. Also, there are some clear differences between these two cases, even as far as the limited info available now.

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2020, 01:08:25 PM »
horrible

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2020, 01:12:59 PM »
At this point some kind of mistake seems to be the most logical explanation.

Is there anyone that gains from this? (Probably Putin?)

As for the revenge angle, (IR655 or not) I don't see how shooting down a Ukrainian plane full of Iranians does the job.

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2020, 02:27:52 PM »
So now Aeroflot AND Ukranian are out of the picture for EY travel??

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2020, 03:26:29 PM »
So now Aeroflot AND Ukranian are out of the picture for EY travel??
You are connecting in Iran?
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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2020, 04:27:49 PM »
Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: Ukraine Air Crash in Iran???
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2020, 05:05:35 PM »
Wouldn't the missle head explode?
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