elal first class ewr-tlv

[damaxer91]

they buy meals that are ou certified, but they heat it single wrapped. the ou does not certify this operation if it is, its from the rabbanut, thus rendering the food youre eating no better than rabbanut, not ou

keep in mind, there are no mashgichim on the plane and certainly not even a yotzei venichnas. you have clueless (in kashrus matters) non religious stewardesses running the kitchen. ive heard stories of stwardesses heating up treif food in the ovens. definitely not a good situation

Keep in mind that I would NEVER eat at Moish's house.

they have champagne, nice wines with a good hechsher?   i guess they prob all need to be mevushal so it can't be too good...

Yes, both Mevushal and Non-Mevushal choices. Nice selection

[moish]

Keep in mind that I would NEVER eat at Moish's house.

lol

Yes, both Mevushal and Non-Mevushal choices. Nice selection

i highly recommend speaking over with a competent rov regarding non mevushal wine served by a non shomer shabbos jew

[yare]

Date?

leaving dec 12th (need to arrive early morning dec 13th), i'm not aware of any other option

loli highly recommend speaking over with a competent rov regarding non mevushal wine served by a non shomer shabbos jew

are you implying that there's something to speak about? is there any posek who's matir such a thing?

[Dan]

leaving dec 12th (need to arrive early morning dec 13th)

Is 2,500+YQ better than 150K on CO?

[yare]

Is 2,500+YQ better than 150K on CO?

co doesn't get me in early enough

[damaxer91]

Is 2,500+YQ better than 150K on CO?

2500 Matmid can usually be bought for $1500 so yes.

[Dan]

2500 Matmid can usually be bought for $1500 so yes.

Didn't realize you can get large amounts of Matmid for less than .6
Anyway what is the YQ for LY F?

[moish]

you implying that there's something to speak about? is there any posek who's matir such a thing?

well rabbanut obviously does if they allow elal stewardesses to serve. i doubt a serious posek would allow it though

[Mocha]

The problem with wine is very widespread in EY unfortunately. I have been to a number of hotels and restaurants where ireligious waitress will open and pour non-mevushal wine. There is an opinion amongst poskim that differentiate whether the ireligious person pouring the wine went off the derech versus a tinok shen. (this opinion says that a t"s does not make the wine y"n).  Though the majority of achronim don't hold of this kula, once again one needs to ask his LOR what his options are.

[moish]

im not sure which restaurants youve been to, but in every single one that i go to (rubin, agudah, ou and machpud), the mashgiach opens and pours the wine.
it boils down to the fact that rabbanut has weak standards

[yare]

im not sure which restaurants youve been to, but in every single one that i go to (rubin, agudah, ou and machpud), the mashgiach opens and pours the wine.
it boils down to the fact that rabbanut has weak standards

+1   alternatively they don't serve non-mevushal wines

[damaxer91]

Didn't realize you can get large amounts of Matmid for less than .6
Anyway what is the YQ for LY F?

.60 is doable. YQ for a o/w is usually about $175 so about $1700 total. 150k CO will set you back at least $2400 and when flying from TLV, LY F is undoubtedly the better way to go.

[Yeki89]

The wines are nothing to write home about. Maybe this changed in the last year. And I don't recall if it was mevushal or not, as they give you a sealed (100ml?) bottle which avoids the problem.

i went and asked for a sealed bottle. they gave me a barkan cabernet i forget the year

[Yeki89]

The problem with wine is very widespread in EY unfortunately. I have been to a number of hotels and restaurants where ireligious waitress will open and pour non-mevushal wine. There is an opinion amongst poskim that differentiate whether the ireligious person pouring the wine went off the derech versus a tinok shen. (this opinion says that a t"s does not make the wine y"n).  Though the majority of achronim don't hold of this kula, once again one needs to ask his LOR what his options are.

i was in yarden winery, they have frum and non frum servers in the tasting section...