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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2024, 01:10:14 PM »
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Notably, this Hungarian simplified naturalization (Egyszerűsített honosítás) path is different from the more limited Hungarian citizenship by declaration which does not require Hungarian language proficiency
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Which one is being discussed here ?

I think both are being discussed, depends on the person’s circumstances. In my case it’s the latter.
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2024, 01:42:28 PM »
How far back does it go?

Austro-Hungarian Empire borders?

I never thought about it, as I am pursuing Lithuanian papers through my maternal lineage (and stuck for almost two years trying to get my mother's birth certificate from South Africa). Maybe going through my father's paternal lineage might be an option, though I have nothing beyond some of grandfather's later in life records from Turkey.
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Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2024, 02:27:11 PM »
How far back does it go?

Austro-Hungarian Empire borders?

I never thought about it, as I am pursuing Lithuanian papers through my maternal lineage (and stuck for almost two years trying to get my mother's birth certificate from South Africa). Maybe going through my father's paternal lineage might be an option, though I have nothing beyond some of grandfather's later in life records from Turkey.
Been trying the same for Austria. My ancestors are from a town that switched countries a couple times (Ukraine, Austria, Poland)

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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2024, 03:27:01 PM »
Been trying the same for Austria. My ancestors are from a town that switched countries a couple times (Ukraine, Austria, Poland)

Why would you pursue Austrian citizenship going back all the way till before WWI? Is that when your ancestors left Europe?

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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2024, 03:35:06 PM »
Why would you pursue Austrian citizenship going back all the way till before WWI? Is that when your ancestors left Europe?
Yes. Late 1920s; the terminology is vague whether they'd actually be eligible.

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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2024, 03:41:52 PM »
Yes. Late 1920s

That was after WWI when their town was likely under Poland.

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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2024, 04:07:12 PM »
That was after WWI when their town was likely under Poland.

Or Ukraine/Soviet Union.
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2024, 04:24:11 PM »
How far back does it go?

Austro-Hungarian Empire borders?

I never thought about it, as I am pursuing Lithuanian papers through my maternal lineage (and stuck for almost two years trying to get my mother's birth certificate from South Africa). Maybe going through my father's paternal lineage might be an option, though I have nothing beyond some of grandfather's later in life records from Turkey.

It's complicated because marriages are sometimes a factor if they married a non-hungarian, depending on dates. It also depends when they lived in Hungary because of how their citizen registry is.
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2024, 07:15:04 PM »
Or Ukraine/Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union took over eastern Galicia/Czechoslovakia during and after WW2, not in the 20's.

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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2024, 07:40:11 PM »
That was after WWI when their town was likely under Poland.
But they were Austrian by birth; I called a Austrian lawyer about it - but he was useless.

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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2024, 07:46:48 PM »
But they were Austrian by birth; I called a Austrian lawyer about it - but he was useless.
When comparing Hungarian citizenship to Austrian citizenship one should take in consideration that Hungary allows you unlimited citizenships while Austria will revoke your citizenship if you get another one after being granted Austrian citizenship
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2024, 09:24:42 AM »
The Soviet Union took over eastern Galicia/Czechoslovakia during and after WW2, not in the 20's.
My point was that Ukraine as an independent country didn't exist back then. I have ancestry from Odessa and it was part of the Russian Empire. I don't think anyone called it Ukraine in the 19th century.
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2024, 09:28:07 AM »
When comparing Hungarian citizenship to Austrian citizenship one should take in consideration that Hungary allows you unlimited citizenships while Austria will revoke your citizenship if you get another one after being granted Austrian citizenship

Lithuania used to totally ban dual citizenship. It was somewhat relaxed at a certain point, which is why I am pursuing it now. But I think they still won't allow you to keep it if you are granted other citizenship later.
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2024, 09:33:51 AM »
Lithuania used to totally ban dual citizenship. It was somewhat relaxed at a certain point, which is why I am pursuing it now. But I think they still won't allow you to keep it if you are granted other citizenship later.
We always knew that you are really a kalte litvak
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2024, 09:40:17 AM »
We always knew that you are really a kalte litvak
I never denied the fact that from my maternal side I am an authentic Litvak that can trace lineage quite a few generations back. My cousins in Lakewood have it the other way. For them it's the paternal lineage.

That being said, if you call me a kalte sheretz it would be more descriptive than a kalte Litvak.
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2024, 11:01:48 AM »
I never denied the fact that from my maternal side I am an authentic Litvak that can trace lineage quite a few generations back. My cousins in Lakewood have it the other way. For them it's the paternal lineage.

That being said, if you call me a kalte sheretz it would be more descriptive than a kalte Litvak.

It was never intended to mean anything more than you calling someone a Lubavitcher
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Re: Hungarian citizenship by descent
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2024, 11:46:37 AM »
It was never intended to mean anything more than you calling someone a Lubavitcher

Obviously. And taken in good spirit.
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